Dl 4 Raw help please

[albert]

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I shot my first raw photos this morning. I can't open them in Iphoto. I have CS 4. What should I do ?

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[AlbertoDeRoma]

I shot my first raw photos this morning. I can't open them in Iphoto. I have CS 4. What should I do ?

 

CaptureOne SW should have come with your DL4 and will work with RAW files.

 

Alberto

[richam]

The Adobe Camera Raw plug-in should have been installed with CS4. If not, you should be able to re-install it from the disk. If it's installed, but not working, perhaps the latest plug-in version (5.6) would solve the problem. It can be downloaded here: Adobe - Downloads

[ho_co]

I may be wrong, but I don't think Apple's system supports RWLs as of yet. Apple has chosen to make this a system-level function rather than a software-supported one.

 

You can use Camera Raw to convert the RWLs to DNG, and/or use Photoshop to convert to another format. I think iPhoto recognizes most standard file types.

 

Hope that helps.

[richam]

I just checked it with my D-Lux 4. My RWLs open in Adobe Camera Raw 5.5 with continuation to Photoshop CS4. If you have Camera Raw 5.5 or better, it should open ok. This also works by opening in Bridge. If you control-click a RWL file in the Mac finder, and select "Get Info," you will see an "Open with:" panel with a menu that allows you to select the application to open this type file. I selected "Adobe Photoshop CS4.app." And then clicked the "Change All" button so that all such documents open with this application. After this, all RWL files should open with CS4 via Camera Raw. If you prefer another application, select it instead.

[ians]

I shot my first raw photos this morning. I can't open them in Iphoto. I have CS 4. What should I do ?

 

neither iPhoto nor Aperture support Raw files from the Dlux 4 (why ever not!!).

 

ians

[richam]

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Perhaps I misunderstood the question, but if you want RWL files to import directly to iPhoto, you are currently out of luck. I use Lightroom or Photoshop CS4 to do any conversions I want to import to iPhoto. But I use iPhoto only for handy iWeb input, and then only after considerable processing, sizing, and format conversion in Lightroom. As others have said, I'm sure Capture One will also do the job for you. Once you decide on the primary application you want to open RWL files, you can use the "Get Info" process I described above to select it, and then "Change All" to make this the default application for all RWL files. If you decide later to change the primary opening application, just go through the "Get Info" process again.

[richam]

neither iPhoto nor Aperture support Raw files from the Dlux 4 (why ever not!!).

 

ians

 

That's the reason I selected Lightroom rather than Aperture. Adobe seems to keep ahead of things better than Apple.

[farnz]

neither iPhoto nor Aperture support Raw files from the Dlux 4 (why ever not!!).

Because it's a new, very different, proprietary format produced by Panasonic with encoded data for correction of lens aberrations through software. Basically, it 'broke the mold'.

 

Pete.

[ho_co]

Thanks to everyone for agreeing that I was correct in my above formulation.

 

Extension of two points in Pete's post:

 

1) "Why don't Aperture and iPhoto support RWLs?" Because Apple needs to re-write the system (OS) to do so, as I said above. (A mistake, IMHO, to tie image decoding to the system rather than doing it in the specific software.)

 

2) "Broke the mold": Adobe even had to re-define the DNG format to accept the software-defined lens corrections without having to de-mosaic the file. Details on Adobe's web site. Demonstration: Use CR to convert an RWL to DNG. Do it once using CR set to "version 5.4 or later," and again using CR set to "version 5.2." And compare the difference in file size.

 

But, as I said above, there's an easy workaround till Apple gets the new formats into the OS. Simply convert to another format that iPhoto recognizes.

[mati22]

sorry, hoco, but why do you want iphoto to be able working with raws? of what origin ever? iphoto is not a programm to do great work on photo. apple left that to the professionell software. noone ever thought of iphoto to do so. the question is why can't aperpure handle the raws of the dlux 4? the community is waiting since over a year for that. but apple sleeps and i think it will never come. time has gone.

[ho_co]

i22, you seem a bit confused. What was it that made you think I had suggested that iPhoto should handle raw files?

 

I've pointed out why Apple's programs can't handle RWLs.

 

That may be of no interest to you, and it may or may not be of interest to the person who started this thread.

 

But I'm interested in your new idea, that "apple sleeps and i think it will never come." By that, do you mean that:

1) Apple is abandoning their system hooks for RAW translation?

2) Apple is abandoning Aperture?

3) Apple is abandoning OS X?

4) Apple is abandoning Macintosh?

5) Apple has no truck with Panasonic's RAW breakthrough and the attendant new DNG definition?

6) Apple simply picks and chooses which cameras to support?

 

I'm curious about your idea of Apple's "sleep."

[regedit]

a very good and also free RAW converter for mac os x is Raw Photo Processor. It reads with no problem d-lux4 raw format. However, it doesn't have a friendly type mac interface, but after few using cycles get used with controls quickly.

 

enjoy!

[mati22]

1) "Why don't Aperture and iPhoto support RWLs?" Because Apple needs to re-write the system (OS) to do so, as I said above. (A mistake, IMHO, to tie image decoding to the system rather than doing it in the specific software.)

 

I suggested that, cause you are writing about aperture and iphoto as if they were both similiar programms. they aren't.

and- of course- mac os x snow leopard can handle raws and- of course- aperture can do. but

not the raws you get from dlux 4. and i think of your point nr. 6 is right.

[ho_co]

... and i think of your point nr. 6 is right.

mat--

Thanks for clarifying your initial point: Apple picks and chooses what formats to support, and in this case has so far chosen not to support the new-style RAW from Panasonic and Leica. Do you know, does Apple support the later cameras from Panasonic that also write both data and instructions to the RAW file?

 

 

Your comment that iPhoto and Aperture are functionally dissimilar is immaterial, because Apple has decided to let the OS handle RAW conversions, and then hand off the converted file to the software. iPhoto and Aperture are identical to the degree that both are Apple's products, and both rely on the system for the RAW conversion.

 

Someone else may be able to explain the matter better, but maybe this screen shot from the Finder under OS X 10.4.11 will help: This version of the OS doesn't recognize the M8's DNG, and therefore doesn't display an image for it. Once processed to a PSD, the image is recognized by the OS, which then displays an image at system level in the Finder.

 

Nonetheless, I can open and process the DNG in Photoshop or Capture One running on the same computer, because they do the RAW recognition in software, not at the system level.

 

I hope this helps explain where I'm coming from; if not, you might want to check some of the many threads on the topic on the forum..

 

Good luck!