Custom L Bracket for the M9

[hoppyman]

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Hey Rick if you have bought that super expensive Gitzo traveller, appreciate its design and were prepared to pay for it, you ARE into the gearhead technoporn thing :)

Now go to the RRS site, ignore the Custome L plate that offends thine eyes and look at the Quick Release Ballhead designs and get the Bi-directional plate that stops any camera twist at all.

Don't forget to change the litter and put out fresh kibble for your stressed cat

[d2mini]

First of all, just wanted to point out that my base plate fits my M9 perfectly. Nice and snug, but pops right on and off with a slight tug. Couldn't be more perfect.

 

 

2) Base Plate: There are 7 holes in the base plate which need to be plugged if any of the other items are not used with it. RRS provided 7 rubber pegs which can be inserted and then trimmed to size. The fit is snug, on my M9 quite snug. It's a very good fit on mine but the tolerances are probably extremely fine and might not work as well on very M9. Given that RRS had already sent me a questionnaire on this subject I suspected that they are monitoring the issue to ensure that get as close as possible with the fit. The base has a locking lever which beats the standard Leica base plates HANDS DOWN. For this feature alone the base plate is a MUST BUY for all M9 owners who have short nails. It makes taking the base plate off a breeze compared to the frustration of the Leica plate.

 

I don't see a need for the plugs at this time.

The locking lever was stiff. I prefer the looseness of the OEM lever but the RRS lever has loosening up with use. I bite my nails and never had a problem with the OEM lever. I guess YMMV.

 

 

Man, this sure seems like an overpriced piece of junk. I wouldn't trust it on my camera. This thing seems like hanging a pair of dice on the rear view mirror. Except, this thing can ruin your camera. No one has explained WHY you would even want this thing other than the fondle factor. Just my opinion.

 

It is just your opinion but an idiotic one at that.

If you want to have to screw your M9 onto your ballhead each and every time you want to put it on and take it off, that's your prerogative. And same if you want to use a generic plate that sticks out from the OEM baseplate and scratches the finish. But for anyone who enjoys the ease of use and precision of RRS plates, this is exactly what you need. Especially with how OEM looking this one is. If you switch between portrait and landscape orientations a lot on a tripod, then you will love the L-plate. If none of this interests you, than obviously you don't have a need for it.

 

I don't know where you got the idea you can't trust this on your camera, where the dice analogy fits in or why you think it's just for fondling, other than from some drug induced dream you had.

 

The plate is a tad pricey as they always are, but this one gets a 10/10 from me.

[RockyIII]

I really like the precision quality and finish of everything I have purchased from Really Right Stuff, and if I used a tripod frequently I would definitely try the new RRS base plus L-Plate. However, I prefer to use the Leica half case most of the time, so for now I will continue with the RRS Universal L-Plate for my infrequent tripod use.

 

Really Right Stuff deserves credit for taking prompt action on the fit problem. In business we learn that everybody makes mistakes, and it is frequenty how a mistake is handled that tells us the most about a company and its management.

 

Rocky

[msk2193]

One man's junk is another man's treasure.

 

I treasure my plate / bracket / grip combo!

[tdtaylor]

I have dozens of pieces for panorama work for my Nikon equipment, and the new L plate for the M9 (which fits my black M-9 perfectly) just extends that equipment. If others are not interested in the correct nodal point for stitching panoramas, so be it, and just ignore the conversation. It is as easy as that. No need to drag everyone down into a throughly insipid dialogue. Go get happy with what you do best, and let the interested ones enjoy and get on with what we do- last heard Leica was not only for street photography.

[gwelland]

Really Right Stuff deserves credit for taking prompt action on the fit problem. In business we learn that everybody makes mistakes, and it is frequenty how a mistake is handled that tells us the most about a company and its management.

 

Absolutely! The RRS folks are a class act and I've only ever had excellent experience with them. I'm one of the 'too snug on the M9' crowd but I'm certain that the replacement will be perfect. If it's as nice a fit on the M9 as it currently is on my M8 (grr!!) then I'll be very very happy with my overpriced piece of camera bling

 

Of course now we need to get Luigi to fashion a new half case in hand beaten tabby skin to accept it

[Rick]

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It is just your opinion but an idiotic one at that.

If you want to have to screw your M9 onto your ballhead each and every time you want to put it on and take it off, that's your prerogative. And same if you want to use a generic plate that sticks out from the OEM baseplate and scratches the finish. But for anyone who enjoys the ease of use and precision of RRS plates, this is exactly what you need. Especially with how OEM looking this one is. If you switch between portrait and landscape orientations a lot on a tripod, then you will love the L-plate. If none of this interests you, than obviously you don't have a need for it.

 

I don't know where you got the idea you can't trust this on your camera, where the dice analogy fits in or why you think it's just for fondling, other than from some drug induced dream you had.

 

The plate is a tad pricey as they always are, but this one gets a 10/10 from me.

 

You invoke an ad hominem argument by calling me idiotic and attacking me personally? Come on, this is just a piece of metal. Do you really want to call my views idiotic over this thing?

 

See, the difference between you and me is that I state how I feel and let you know that it is just my opinion. Maybe, I'm right? And, I try and understand why you guys like this thing so much.

 

As stated in each of my posts, this is my opinion and I'm sorry if some of you are confusing it with a fact that has a right or wrong. But, I honestly don't get the idea of this product beyond the obvious fact that it secures the camera better and provides another way to switch from landcape to portrait. As it happens, I'm looking at L-bracket nodal brackets right now and I wanted to find out why all of you are so excited about this product. Hoppy has explained it to me, I think.

 

What I want is: a pano swivel with a leveler with a nodal bracket, I think. This doesn't do it for me. I think I get that this is a cool solid product, but I think it is limited, for me, I think.

 

Recap of how I see this product: It still doesn't change the fact that this RRS base plate is not needed to use a tripod, you can simply use the ball head and/or a nodal bracket and achieve the same thing or better from my point of view. I've never scratched my base plate from a bracket or screw mount ball head and it has never taken me more than a few seconds to switch from landscape to portrait (loosen ball head, swing camera to portrait, tighten ball head,done). I also wouldn't put this RRS base plate on my M9 because it doesn't fit right (could cause damage) and it adds bulk. I also pointed out a site that sells nice nodal brackets as to add to the body of knowledge of the thread.

 

Good luck with this product and I hope they get the sizing sorted out.

 

p.s. Hoppy, don't give me too hard of a time if you spot me someday with this on my camera, mate.

[d2mini]

You invoke an ad hominem argument by calling me idiotic and attacking me personally? Come on, this is just a piece of metal. Do you really want to call my views idiotic over this thing?

 

To strongly judge and badmouth a product you have never seen, held or used... yes that is idiotic. I'm sorry you took it personally.

 

As I said before, mine couldn't fit more perfectly. No damage, almost no added bulk, looks oem, and with the oem plate in my bag I can switch it with the flick of a wrist if I want.

[Rick]

To strongly judge and badmouth a product you have never seen, held or used... yes that is idiotic. I'm sorry you took it personally.

 

As I said before, mine couldn't fit more perfectly. No damage, almost no added bulk, looks oem, and with the oem plate in my bag I can switch it with the flick of a wrist if I want.

 

1. I have seen it.

 

2. You actually said my "opinion" was idiotic. Don't get slippery now and try and squirm out of it by changing it to something you didn't say.

 

3. Further, I didn't take it personally, not in the least. There is a difference between me taking it personally and you making it personal. I've obviously touched a nerve.

 

Cheers

[Tom_W]

At the feast of ego, all leave hungry.

 

T

[d2mini]

1. I have seen it.

 

2. You actually said my "opinion" was idiotic. Don't get slippery now and try and squirm out of it by changing it to something you didn't say.

 

3. Further, I didn't take it personally, not in the least. There is a difference between me taking it personally and you making it personal. I've obviously touched a nerve.

 

Cheers

 

1. On the interwebs. Wowwwwww.

 

2. What are you reading? It is idiotic. I'm not squirming out of anything.

 

3. You said i personally attacked you. Which I did not. I gave you my opinion on your opinion. So yes, you took it personally.

 

Here is one of your initial posts on the subject in case you forgot.

 

Man, this sure seems like an overpriced piece of junk. I wouldn't trust it on my camera. This thing seems like hanging a pair of dice on the rear view mirror. Except, this thing can ruin your camera. No one has explained WHY you would even want this thing other than the fondle factor. Just my opinion.

 

You backed out of it a bit later, but there it is in b/w.

It's ok if you don't get it, or didn't at the time.

But if you can have a strong opinion about something you don't understand or "get", than I can have a strong opinion about you badmouthing a product you don't have any personal experience with. No nerves touched, just trying to set the record straight about a great product.

[hoppyman]

This is really another discussion that comes down to language and meaning and opinion.

Some people (including me) disagreed with Rick's opinion. That's fine, part of everyone expressing their own views. Rick has already since said that he can now see why others are impressed with the RRS product and he is now looking at it more closely himself.

 

So the discussion becomes about words and meanings.

People disagreed with Rick describing the RRS product as over-priced junk.

But calling his opinion idiotic is equally inaccurate and more personal whatever your viewpoint on the original issue. Take two words out of those posts and it all looks different.

 

Fair go, who hasn't ever posted something that you've later recognised as un-sympathetic or not well phrased or not as polite as you should have been? I certainly have. Usually you get much worse in reply.

[Tom_W]

My bracket has arrived in the UK. It is tight and therefore being returned.

 

I bought the L bracket as well as the base. Do I need to return both?

 

I have sent an email to RRS but as yet am still awaiting a reply.

 

Does anybody already have the answer?

 

Cheers

 

T

[canlogic]

I spoke with them on the phone and they just want the base.

[hoppyman]

I returned the whole package as supplied in case of any doubt. I'm confident that whatever the cusomers send back will be replaced and RRS are reimbursing the shipping costs of course.

[Tom_W]

Confirmed with RRS by phone this morning

 

Base plate only.

 

T

[gabriel]

Does anybody know if RRS are addressing the issue of the need to remove the strap from the LH eyelet before mounting the L bracket. I feel like delaying my order until this issue is addressed by RRS.

[gib_robinson]

Gabriel,

 

I don't know how they could address that inconvenience without compromising the integrity of the short side of the L bracket.

 

My solution is to use either a Black Rapid strap fastened to the bottom tripod mount or when I'm using a tripod, to use a Y strap on the RH strap lug. I put up with the inconvenience because I value the L for panoramas and vertical images.

 

--Gib

 

 

 

 

 

--Gib

[tdtaylor]

I use Luigi's Leicatime "D" type fasteners on his handstrap and neckstrap and they remove/attach in seconds. Makes a lot of situations easier, as well as changing between the two.

 

http://leicatime.com/a000-STRAPS-page.htm

 

(scroll down 3/4 of the page- always an adventure).

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[Reds]

Just dropped by to say that I got my M9 back from Solms, and the RRS bracket fits perfectly out of the box. A little fiddly to put on and off - but usual great RRS quality build.

 

Strap lug thing doesn't bother me, as I now use a wrist strap on the right anyway. Will be great to be able to use a Tripod and do Panos when the mood suits; on a system that fits in with my other gear.