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"M9 waiting list now cleared. Good availability" is the claim at Kingsley Photographic Limited. Haven't followed this through (one of the luckier ones, thanks to Leica Mayfair, London, some time back). Red Dot were talking about "March – maybe" last time I spoke to Ivor, just before Christmas.

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I have just spoken to the shop and can confirm that there is no more availability than any other outlet. The sales blurb on the web site is just that - sales blurb.

 

Interestingly, the chap on the phone claimed he could circumvent the system by going directly through the Leica rep. I had to give him a large deposit and I could have it in 2 weeks.

 

I thought this might be a saturday part timer speaking but I heard him clarify his comments with another more knowledgeable staff member. Their generous offer was declined as their credibility was completely blown.

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I have bought from them a couple of times, and always found them to be knowledgable, fair and honest. I would buy from them again.

 

Why they would claim to ge able to circumvent the system for a complete stranger over the phone is very odd.

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Things may be getting better.

I enquired about an M9 last Monday and a black version arrived at the (mainstream ) Dealers on Wednesday.

 

Personally I found the shiny black paint rather garish so I've decided to see the grey finish before making a final purchase decision.

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I had to give him a large deposit and I could have it in 2 weeks.

 

I just hate it when dealers take a large deposit in situations like this.

Incase the buyer does not show up anymore, the shop can sell it in no time to somebody else.

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KIngsley are in central London. Hardly "out of the way"

 

You took my comment out of context. Not that the dealer is out of the way or in some small township with little traffic but that is it not one of the major dealers of photographic equipment like B&H is in the states and ffordes in Scotland and whatever big dealers there are in London.

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Interestingly, the chap on the phone claimed he could circumvent the system by going directly through the Leica rep. I had to give him a large deposit and I could have it in 2 weeks.

 

Funnily, I heard the same comment (minus the deposit) from a dealer in Hamburg yesterday. It wasn't the large Leica dealer everybody knows but rather a medium-sized shop that usually sells Nikon and Canon SLRs. I'm not in the market for an M9, but I saw they had a grey M9 and asked if it was for sale. He said it was their demo unit, but that he could get one "very quickly" if the buyer was "really interested" (whatever that means). He said it was about "knowing the right people". Go figure...

 

BTW, he also said that they already sold "several" M9s this year (which is only two weeks old) and a lot last year. Given that this is not a typical Leica shop (and there are a few in Hamburg) I think it shows that the M9 is indeed quite a success.

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I have bought from them a couple of times, and always found them to be knowledgable, fair and honest. I would buy from them again.

 

Indeed; it's where I bought my M8, as they were easy about a morning's trial with the camera around London (unlike nearby Classic at the time – this was well before Ivor set up on his own as Red Dot). However, as I was not au fait with card pricing I was charged £65 for a 2BG Fuji SD, and when I later checked the company's web price (not to mention finding other far cheaper online suppliers) and went back to the shop, I had a devil of a job to get them to offer any rebate. It's put me off going there again.

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You took my comment out of context. Not that the dealer is out of the way or in some small township with little traffic but that is it not one of the major dealers of photographic equipment like B&H is in the states and ffordes in Scotland and whatever big dealers there are in London.
Well, they are listed on the Leica website as premier dealers, so it cannot be a tobacco shop that sells a few cameras on the side.
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