jackperk Posted January 5, 2010 Share #1 Posted January 5, 2010 Advertisement (gone after registration) Listening to the video Michael Reichmann did with the folks at Leitz, I heard it said that the manual lens selection screen listed ALL lenses even a rare version of a lens from years ago. Yet when I check it on my M9, I don't even find any of the Summarit lenses, the 2.5 lenses listed. And model nuimber from another lens of mine is not listed. I don't understand why this is. Any ideas? jack perkins Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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thrice Posted January 5, 2010 Share #2 Posted January 5, 2010 Listening to the video Michael Reichmann did with the folks at Leitz, I heard it said that the manual lens selection screen listed ALL lenses even a rare version of a lens from years ago. Yet when I check it on my M9, I don't even find any of the Summarit lenses, the 2.5 lenses listed. And model nuimber from another lens of mine is not listed. I don't understand why this is. Any ideas? jack perkins Every modern Summarit is 6-bit coded, no real need to include them. You will notice the 21/24 Summilux and 50/0.95 Noctilux ASPH excluded as well. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
marknorton Posted January 5, 2010 Share #3 Posted January 5, 2010 Yes, the Leica rationale for providing the lens selection menu is to be able to support uncoded Leica lenses. That means any lens which has been introduced since the M8 was launched will already be coded, so in addition to the Summarits and the 3 Daniel lists, the 24mm Elmar, the 18mm Super-Elmar and the 28mm Elmarit ASPH are not in there either. The one exception is the WATE which has always been coded and has always required a manual focal length selection because there is no coupling between lens and camera. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jackperk Posted January 5, 2010 Author Share #4 Posted January 5, 2010 Ah, but gentlemen, I have here another lens ... a 50 summicron that seems to be neither coded nor listed. Model number 011 816 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaapv Posted January 5, 2010 Share #5 Posted January 5, 2010 11816 is listed in the camera. Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/108697-why-are-my-lenses-not-listed-in-manual-lens-mode/?do=findComment&comment=1175346'>More sharing options...
jackperk Posted January 5, 2010 Author Share #6 Posted January 5, 2010 Chomp, slurp, gulp ----- This is I eating humble pie.... And thanking you for straightening me out. jack Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
telewatt Posted January 5, 2010 Share #7 Posted January 5, 2010 Advertisement (gone after registration) The first rigid Summicron is not in, but no problem, there are some other Summicrons to use... the Super-Angulon 3,4/21mm is missing too.. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonoslack Posted January 5, 2010 Share #8 Posted January 5, 2010 The one exception is the WATE which has always been coded and has always required a manual focal length selection because there is no coupling between lens and camera. HI Mark Actually, with the WATE there is no need to do a manual selection - the only reason for doing it is to get the correct focal length in the exif information - the same correction is applied for each focal length (as I understand it). It makes the WATE so much more useful on the M9, in that you only have to think about changing the focal length on the frankenfinder (if you're using it). P.S. the super Angulon 21mm is missing because it isn't recommended on the M9 - not sure whether that's to do with form or function. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
telewatt Posted January 5, 2010 Share #9 Posted January 5, 2010 HI MarkActually, with the WATE there is no need to do a manual selection - the only reason for doing it is to get the correct focal length in the exif information - the same correction is applied for each focal length (as I understand it). It makes the WATE so much more useful on the M9, in that you only have to think about changing the focal length on the frankenfinder (if you're using it). P.S. the super Angulon 21mm is missing because it isn't recommended on the M9 - not sure whether that's to do with form or function. It works but the symetric of the lens makes the "red corners" not very usefull for color... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaapv Posted January 5, 2010 Share #10 Posted January 5, 2010 Too close to the sensor to measure exposure properly. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
eritho Posted January 5, 2010 Share #11 Posted January 5, 2010 Please, where do you find these model numbers? I have the following lenses: Elmarit-M 28/2.8 Summicron-M 35/2 Summicron-M 35/2 ASPH. Summicron-M 50/2 Summicron-M 90/2 Elmarit-M 135/2.8 I can't find a model number on any of these! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaapv Posted January 5, 2010 Share #12 Posted January 5, 2010 They are noted quite recognizably. I suspect the differences in correction between similar lenses are minimal anyway. Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/108697-why-are-my-lenses-not-listed-in-manual-lens-mode/?do=findComment&comment=1175550'>More sharing options...
telewatt Posted January 5, 2010 Share #13 Posted January 5, 2010 Too close to the sensor to measure exposure properly. no, in the german manual Leica says the Super-Angulon will work but without metering... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaapv Posted January 5, 2010 Share #14 Posted January 5, 2010 Err... Isn't that exactly what I said? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
telewatt Posted January 5, 2010 Share #15 Posted January 5, 2010 here a shot with the Super-Angulon...sorry, but this was the first picture I did with the M9 after opening the box... Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! regards, Jan Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! regards, Jan ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/108697-why-are-my-lenses-not-listed-in-manual-lens-mode/?do=findComment&comment=1175570'>More sharing options...
telewatt Posted January 5, 2010 Share #16 Posted January 5, 2010 Err... Isn't that exactly what I said? ..upps sorry!.... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
eritho Posted January 6, 2010 Share #17 Posted January 6, 2010 One more try: Where on the lens can you read the model number? Or do you have a list linking serial numbers to model numbers? I have the following lenses: Elmarit-M 28/2.8 Summicron-M 35/2 Summicron-M 35/2 ASPH. Summicron-M 50/2 Summicron-M 90/2 Elmarit-M 135/2.8 I can't find a model number on any of these! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shootist Posted January 6, 2010 Share #18 Posted January 6, 2010 Ah, but gentlemen, I have here another lens ... a 50 summicron that seems to be neither coded nor listed. Model number 011 816 One big thing you need to know and remember is that Leica always places a 0 (zero) in front of the real model number listed on the box the lens or camera comes in. There is no rhym or reason for this. But if you are looking at the box for the model number just drop the first zero and you will then have the correct number. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
likalar Posted January 6, 2010 Share #19 Posted January 6, 2010 Eritho, Here's the list. On this page there is a faded grey link to a pdf of the codes. Leica Camera AG - Service - M lens coding The list has 2 sections: current and discontinued lenses. Larry Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaapv Posted January 6, 2010 Share #20 Posted January 6, 2010 One more try: Where on the lens can you read the model number? Or do you have a list linking serial numbers to model numbers? I have the following lenses: Elmarit-M 28/2.8 Summicron-M 35/2 Summicron-M 35/2 ASPH. Summicron-M 50/2 Summicron-M 90/2 Elmarit-M 135/2.8 I can't find a model number on any of these! Most of the numbers are listed on my screenshots. Where there are two numbers one is chrome and one is black. With the Summicron 50 there are black/chrome/paint and titanium versions. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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