Darius Posted December 26, 2009 Share #1 Posted December 26, 2009 Advertisement (gone after registration) Hello to all, I am rather new to this forum and very happy being here; reading all the informative and helpful comments on The Leica D-Lux 4 on this forum. I recently up loaded LEICA D-LUX 4 Firmware Update 2.2 to my recently purchased Leica D-Lux 4. I was under the impression that I could save different zoom focal length settings to the Custom Settings C1, C2-1, C2-2 etc. So I tried setting C1 with a 35mm (approximate) equivalent focal length setting and saved it to C1. Then moved to C2-1 and set C2-1 with a (approximately) 55 mm Focal length setting and saved that to C2-1. But when I switched the camera off and on again and turned the knob to C1 again I did not get the approximate 35mm that I had initially set and saved to this key, but rather the approximate 55mm focal length setting that I had set to C2-1 setting. Does this mean that it is not possible to set various different zoom settings to the Custom modes C1, C2-1, C2-2 etc.? and that Lens Resume,just means what it is, that it only resumes the lens from the last focal length that was set on the camera before switching it off regardless of what focal lengths were set in the various Custom settings? I hope that this makes sense and would appreciate any advice/help on this matter.....Many thanks in advance. Darius Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Advertisement Posted December 26, 2009 Posted December 26, 2009 Hi Darius, Take a look here LEICA D-LUX 4 Firmware Update 2.2 [LENS RESUME] setting to C1 - C2..... I'm sure you'll find what you were looking for!
farnz Posted December 27, 2009 Share #2 Posted December 27, 2009 Darius, Welcome to the forum! ... and, yes, I'm afraid. Pete. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darius Posted December 27, 2009 Author Share #3 Posted December 27, 2009 Hi Pete, Really appreciate your help on this matter. I had thought this somehow, yet wishful thinking on my part that perhaps there was a way/possibility to save different focal length settings to the various Custom modes/settings and perhaps someone in this Forum had perhaps figured it out. Anyway, perhaps they put it in the next firmware update and perhaps not. It works on my Canon G10 the only other digital camera that I have and I had became so used to it switching from C1 to C2 and the lens moving back and forth to its preset focal length settings. In any case, the D-Lux 4 is a excellent camera and one must accept it for what it is and the way it was engineered and built. It is a camera that I like a lot......Thanks for your help and kind comment. Looking forward to reading more on the D-Lux 4 in this informative and interesting Forum. Darius Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
regedit Posted December 28, 2009 Share #4 Posted December 28, 2009 Nice try, however, this means that lens should move by another control (which in this case will be the dial) another than zoom or on/off switch. Sounds a bit difficult but not impossible. Maybe in v3.0 when also is expected a step zoom Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darius Posted December 28, 2009 Author Share #5 Posted December 28, 2009 Thanks regedit for the information . The step zoom on the comming Firmware v3.0 sounds great and very useful and practical I hope they do it. That means something like 28, 35, 40, 50, focal lengths that can be set in steps....some of the reputable and famous Leitz ( Leica M, R & CL) Lenses on a small easy to carry Leica D-Lux 4 camera . Interesting to know when they will release this v3.0? Darius Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
looks Posted December 28, 2009 Share #6 Posted December 28, 2009 I don't think they will bring a v 3.0. They bring the X1 and maybe the D-Lux5 and then they don't will support the d-LUx4 with a new firmware update. My thoughts about it. I'm very disapointed about this new update, this lens resume is for nothing. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
regedit Posted December 28, 2009 Share #7 Posted December 28, 2009 Advertisement (gone after registration) for me the lens resume was good for an experiment. for a few days I pretend that my 28-60 turns into 35. So, I set the zoom level to which I considered to be 35 and set aperture above 2.8. In this way I got a "weaker ISO performance" X1. If anybody think about X1 upgrade should try this to realize what x1 it's about. Of course, on X1 you'll have a better sensor but you should realize the restrictions. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
h00ligan Posted December 28, 2009 Share #8 Posted December 28, 2009 Reg, that's a great idea for those thinking of switching up - good thought! It seems based on previous model lifecycles the d-ux 4 will probably be EOL'd around September as Leica / Panasonic seem to have about a 2 year product cycle on this series (from street date, not anouncement). I'd expect a successor would be announced late summer. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bill Posted December 29, 2009 Share #9 Posted December 29, 2009 ...I'm very disapointed about this new update, this lens resume is for nothing. I couldn't agree less. It does EXACTLY what I always wanted - resumes to 60mm (provided that is where I have left it, which 99%of the time I have). Result: Less time to power up, less lens movement on power up and therefore quicker reaction time from "cold". For all l know I am also saving battery life too, through minimising un-necessary zooming. All in all, perfect. I am a very happy bunny indeed. Thank you Leica. Regards, Bill Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darius Posted December 29, 2009 Author Share #10 Posted December 29, 2009 Very interesting . Looks, agree the Lens Resume is a bit disappointing it could have been much more, but that's it just Lens Resume.... I think the other features in the update are ok (although I have not tried them all) The tricks with the menu are good. The 1:1 aspect ratio is interesting it shoots photos in square format like say a 6x6 camera. I noticed something about the change in focal length as a result of the 1:1 aspect ratio. When I looked in Lightroom 2.2 (it does not show it in Capture One 4) under the EXIF data I saw that photos shot in 1:1 ratio had a different 35 mm equivalent focal length. for instance a photo shot with 5.1 mm in 3:2 ratio is 24mm (35mm equivalent focal length) but in 1:1 aspect ratio it still shows 5.1mm but the 35mm equivalent of it is shown as 28mm. The same with the 12.8 mm focal length which is a 60 mm equivalent in 3:2, 4:3 ratios, but when shot in 1:1 aspect ratio in LR EXIF 12.8mm shows as 70mm (35mm equivalent). I tried it with various zoom settings in between and every time I got a higher 35mm equivalent shown in 1:1 aspect ratio. I know I am not the only one who has figured this out , but it is interesting something parallel to the change in lens focal lengths between large format cameras and 35mm cameras etc. Of course lightroom shows these 35mm equivalent focal lengths only for JPEG files; RAW or DNG is shown as digital focal lengths only, the same as in Capture 1. regedit, very interesting, also a good experiment for if to buy the X1 or not.... I also tried it but I am probably not so good as you as finding the 35mm focal length I just put the zoom indicator right in the middle and made a median calculation i.e 24mm + 60mm=84) 84/2=42mm then I set lens resume and took 2 shots one with 3:2 aspect and one with 1:1 aspect and loaded them in Capture and also imported in LR. In LR for 3:2 aspect the focal length shows as 41 mm and for 1:1 aspect shows as 48 mm in both cases the digital focal length is 8.8 mm. I am not right in the middle I have to test this again there is a trick with the zoom lever as soon as it reaches the middle one should let go also best to look vertically down at the monitor when making the adjustment like when you draw a straight line with pencil and ruler. I went out and shot a lot of photos with 41 mm equavelent and they came out ok. Checking a shot taken outdoors in playback mode the lens would retract after a short while and then I would hit the shutter button and the lens would go back to 41mm to compose again. So the Lens Resume is doing its intended function. I thought perhaps just live with 24mm, 41mm and 60mm for the time being. 40mm is a good focal length 35mm is very good (although not so good when stuck permanantly on a expensive camera unless that's the only lens one wishes to work with). I would also like to have 35mm but I have to experiment if you know the trick let me know. Ok h00ligan interesting about the successor probably would come, yet I think even when a successor comes using the logic that if something was done twice it would be done again that if there was Firmware version 1.2 and then 2.2 then there would be another Firmware update again for this camera. Just maybe. I think Leica likes to keep working on these cameras like they do with the C- Lux 3 etc. Of course it depends on the limitations in the design of this camera about how far it can be updated...... Bill interesting and very informative..... Regards Darius Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
griffster Posted December 29, 2009 Share #11 Posted December 29, 2009 I believe the zoom on the D-lux4 is already a stepped zoom. I can always do 12 short nudges of the zoom lever from one end of the zoom to the other end. This goes for both directions and the zoom always seems to stop at the same spots. Darius, perhaps if you have the time and will, you can experiment with this and let us know which step belongs to which focal length. Mind you, 12 steps is 13 focal lengths. Step zero is your starting point, from there you can go 12 steps to the other end. Of course digital zoom is turned off... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
regedit Posted December 29, 2009 Share #12 Posted December 29, 2009 mine is not step, it's just chaotic. I manage to set 13, 11 and 8 intervals. Maybe my finger is the fault ?! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
griffster Posted December 29, 2009 Share #13 Posted December 29, 2009 Yes, I'm sure it's the finger. I've repeated it many times and always came to 12 steps. Just flick the lever ever so slightly. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darius Posted December 29, 2009 Author Share #14 Posted December 29, 2009 Many thanks griffster for your expert tip, and of course regedit.... I tried it just now but I only get 5 to 6 steps....perhaps it is that my fingers are not sensitive enough or it is the Holiday Spirit , I shall try it in daylight in a disciplined state of mind and post my results.....If I get it.... Best regards Darius Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest qlaus Posted December 30, 2009 Share #15 Posted December 30, 2009 Interesting thread, parallel to a similar one in the German section.Thanks to griffster, I tried the 12 step procedure and could reproduce it a couple of times, resulting in focal length of 24, 26, 28, 30, 32, 35, 37, 41, 44, 48, 52, 57, 60 mm.But, the way of "flicking" the zoom lever needed to reproduce the results is not the way I'm used to (and like to) handle any device.So a modified firmware with the choice of a step approach like 24-28-35-50-60 would suit me much better.Have a good start into 2010,Klaus Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
griffster Posted December 30, 2009 Share #16 Posted December 30, 2009 Thanks Klaus. This could be quite helpful. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bill Posted December 30, 2009 Share #17 Posted December 30, 2009 This is all very interesting, in an academic sort of way, chaps, but I think "steps" is the key word... The angle of view difference between some of the settings you are debating is no more than a step forward or back with your feet in the real world The following chart is pretty out of date now, but it shows respective angles of view for Leica and CV LTM and M-Mount lenses: Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ...see what I mean? Regards, Bill Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ...see what I mean? Regards, Bill ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/107801-leica-d-lux-4-firmware-update-22-lens-resume-setting-to-c1-c2/?do=findComment&comment=1168320'>More sharing options...
griffster Posted December 30, 2009 Share #18 Posted December 30, 2009 ...clever devil... as ever Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bill Posted December 30, 2009 Share #19 Posted December 30, 2009 Footwear before firmware, that's what I say... Regards, Bill Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
regedit Posted December 30, 2009 Share #20 Posted December 30, 2009 now make sense! I cannot zoom constantly on camera as I can't make equal real steps! I'm quite ok to estimate distances but my body refuse to make constant operations. I'm not made by Leica, that's for sure Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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