andybarton Posted December 16, 2009 Share #41 Posted December 16, 2009 Advertisement (gone after registration) All moderators moderate everywhere, we don't have specific areas to look after. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Advertisement Posted December 16, 2009 Posted December 16, 2009 Hi andybarton, Take a look here The Leica R system own sub forum...?. I'm sure you'll find what you were looking for!
stuny Posted December 16, 2009 Share #42 Posted December 16, 2009 Andy, of course is correct. My comment regarding the proposed R forum moderation reflects that I visit the Bar, Customer, Digital and all photo sections every day that I am near a computer. Not being an M user, and no longer being a film user I visit those sections much less frequently. Andy might be the only one of us who regularly visits everywhere on the Forum. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest BigSplash Posted December 16, 2009 Share #43 Posted December 16, 2009 If the following is true: There will be a digital solution for existing R owners...that will not be with us during the next six months, but sometime later (Photokina 2010?) That the solution may be a S2 junior, lower cost unit....perhaps with an R adapter (Yet presumably with an ability to accept S2 lenses also) This surely is significant and should be monitored and given some level of focus somewhere on the Forum, shouldn't it.? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Angora Posted December 16, 2009 Share #44 Posted December 16, 2009 Really easy, Andy--think about it a bit... The M8 and M9 cameras would go under M. I wouldn't have separate sections for these. DMR goes under R. Film users (and film M use) goes under the requisite film sub-category. Lenses go under M and R (and S and X when needed), respectively. Yes, you might get, with lenses, some cross-pollination into the film sub-categories, but to the extent a 50 Lux ASPH M doesn't work the same on an M8 (less-so on an M9) that's ok with me. A good scheme is not a perfect scheme, but it's better than a bad one The Luxes go under Digilux (or, as I said, whatever you'd like to call 'em). Very straightforward. If you need a pre-M category then create it. It's very consistent and logical. Naturally you wouldn't need a film sub-category there, because it's all film. In the same way, you don't need an film S-sub-category, because it's all digital. I totally agree with that. Fair categorisation. [...] Lastly apart from having an "R" sub section and all that jazz I think the greater point is being missed out. That is Leica R customers feel they have been "archived" and bypassed and after this Septembers announcement completely let down . I think many of us feel frustrated and betrayed and feel that there is a form of "brand " elitism going on....adding insult to injury...Leica "almost" giving us the impression that the R system doesn't exist and was simply an embarrassment..sort of like the homeless people int downtown Vancouver that are being sanitized" off the streets" for the Olympics..like they never existed. No one "enjoys" the feeling of being marginalized,,,no one..for what ever the rational is. Many of use have put large sums of money into Leica glass and equipment, it would go a long way for Leica to be somewhat sensitive and responsive to a significant part of their customer base. Indifference, might give Leica some short term funds to please the shareholders and Banks , but the long-term cost in alienating its R customer base will be significant. Its up to Leica to come to understand this. I know this for a fact, as soon as you "don't give a damn" about your customers, you are in trouble, no matter how healthy the bank account looks for now. To be responsive to your customers is good business sense. Cheers, JRM Word. Especially for what's in bold... Leica needs to do something for it's R-users base, it's urgent and it's been repeated over and over. But you guys operating the forum, you can also do something for us! And for this situation. Please listen to our arguments. Be better than the company you are (freely and indirectly) representing, because said company doesn't do us justice. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
andybarton Posted December 16, 2009 Share #45 Posted December 16, 2009 If the following is true: There will be a digital solution for existing R owners...that will not be with us during the next six months, but sometime later (Photokina 2010?) That the solution may be a S2 junior, lower cost unit....perhaps with an R adapter (Yet presumably with an ability to accept S2 lenses also) This surely is significant and should be monitored and given some level of focus somewhere on the Forum, shouldn't it.? IF Leica do release a new solution for R users, then I am sure that will be taken into consideration at the time. The discussions re an R sub-section have been dealt with by Andreas already. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
andybarton Posted December 16, 2009 Share #46 Posted December 16, 2009 Andy might be the only one of us who regularly visits everywhere on the Forum. I am not the only one who visits all the sub-sections of the Forum. Erl does too, when he's not out enjoying himself in hot or cold places... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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