tom0511 Posted November 17, 2009 Share #41 Posted November 17, 2009 Advertisement (gone after registration) ok guys,these are 4 shots, all wide open made with the Nocti @ f1.0 and the Lux ASPH @ f.14. Both are excellent, their fingerprints are quite different IMHO, and I slightly prefer the Nocti look in this case. Once again nothing artistic is involved here, just take a look at the general rendition and bokeh. First sample of each couple is always the Nocti. Thanks for posting this- I do know the Nocti wide open isnt supersharp but I have the feeling that those Nocti images could be slightly OOF? Other than that I am surprized that the bokeh does look so much alike Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Advertisement Posted November 17, 2009 Posted November 17, 2009 Hi tom0511, Take a look here Noct @ f/1.4 = Lux ASPH @ f/1.4. I'm sure you'll find what you were looking for!
Mauribix Posted November 17, 2009 Share #42 Posted November 17, 2009 Tom, I guess you're right, probably blurred because of the subject movements (at least in the second Nocti shot). Matter of fact I was shooting at 1/20"-1/30", and it was cold for the subject. I'll try and post different picture (indoor) later. Anyway, the lux bokeh is really good IMHO, but the nocti's is quite different to my eye. The nocti's bokeh look is a mixture of barrel distortion, larger aperture, coma and vignetting all at once. Unique. I think the lux ASPH bokeh is in the same league of the 90AA, they're smooth and well controlled too, I could say the most "creamy" in the ASPH setup. I love 'em too. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nikkor AIS Posted November 17, 2009 Share #43 Posted November 17, 2009 Great shots, thanks for taking the time to do them and post. 1/20 second very impressive. Im surprised how similar the image look with the exception of the more out of focus blur of the Noctilux. Perhaps your next set you could shoot the Noctilux at F/ 1.4. Anyway, thanks again. Gregory Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest mc_k Posted November 17, 2009 Share #44 Posted November 17, 2009 thanks for posting the comparisons. I would have liked a shot from the same location with the 1.4 asph at f/2. I would expect to see lots of star-shaped blue highlights and a reminder that the lens, as good as it is, can't do everything well. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mauribix Posted November 17, 2009 Share #45 Posted November 17, 2009 Stay tuned! I'm ready to post some more right now! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mauribix Posted November 17, 2009 Share #46 Posted November 17, 2009 Ok, let's see some Bokeh samples of the Noctilux. The sequence is f=1 f=1.4 f=2 f=2.8 f=4 Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/103689-noct-f14-lux-asph-f14/?do=findComment&comment=1120468'>More sharing options...
Mauribix Posted November 17, 2009 Share #47 Posted November 17, 2009 Advertisement (gone after registration) now let's see some Bokeh samples of the Summilux ASPH. The sequence is f=1.4 f=2 f=2.8 f=4 Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/103689-noct-f14-lux-asph-f14/?do=findComment&comment=1120469'>More sharing options...
Mauribix Posted November 17, 2009 Share #48 Posted November 17, 2009 Now, a shot made with the Lux @ f=1.4, then the same shot made with the nocti @ f=1 and then @ f=1.4 Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/103689-noct-f14-lux-asph-f14/?do=findComment&comment=1120475'>More sharing options...
Mauribix Posted November 17, 2009 Share #49 Posted November 17, 2009 Here are the crop of the pictures above in the same sequence: Summilux @ f1.4 then Noctilux @ f1 then Noctilux @ f1.4 Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/103689-noct-f14-lux-asph-f14/?do=findComment&comment=1120479'>More sharing options...
Mauribix Posted November 17, 2009 Share #50 Posted November 17, 2009 I want to precise that these are not scientific tests, I guess how long it could take, I just did these as some asked, and I don't like to draw any conclusion. Simply, they both can co-exhist IMHO, unless money is an issue, in every photographer's bag. I've got some more samples to compare sharpness of both lenses, but not that much time. Hope you'll understand. Hope this help. Ciao, Maurizio Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mauribix Posted November 18, 2009 Share #51 Posted November 18, 2009 Oh, c'mon guys? Any comment? Was that useless? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
manolo Posted November 18, 2009 Share #52 Posted November 18, 2009 I like the boke of both wide open; also of both at 2 & 2.8. At 1.4 I like the summilux better. 9 blades for the summilux 10 for the noctilux. I like the wider view of the noctilux (specially for the M9 or film) Is it also wider than the old noctilux? Thanks for this comparisons. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
markowich Posted November 18, 2009 Share #53 Posted November 18, 2009 I like the boke of both wide open; also of both at 2 & 2.8. At 1.4 I like the summilux better. 9 blades for the summilux 10 for the noctilux. I like the wider view of the noctilux (specially for the M9 or film) Is it also wider than the old noctilux? Thanks for this comparisons. unfortunately for my bank account i prefer the bokeh of the nocti...and i do have the lux. p Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
markowich Posted November 18, 2009 Share #54 Posted November 18, 2009 unfortunately for my bank account i prefer the bokeh of the nocti...and i do have the lux.p ps: but maybe i can get away buying a used 75mm lux instead...---))) p Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bo_Lorentzen Posted November 18, 2009 Share #55 Posted November 18, 2009 Maurizio, Very informative. thank you for taking the time to create these. In your blog put them in tables 50 lux 1.4 left, noct @ 1.4 center noct @ 1.0 right so one see the same shot across with the two 1.4 side to side. Interesting the de-focus of the noct at 1.4 seems smoother than the 50lux. Hardly surprising considering the bigger slab of glass involved and the larger amount of material to scatter than light smoothly in the background. Great test. thank you. . Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnalex141r Posted November 18, 2009 Share #56 Posted November 18, 2009 Oh, c'mon guys?Any comment? Was that useless? No, I've been sitting here with my head in my hands repeating to myself "I do not need to spend any more money on lenses this month... I do not need to spend any more money on lenses this month... " Over the last month or two, I have picked up the 50/1.4 and the 28/2, and am endeavouring to learn how to actually use them to their potential. JohnS. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nikkor AIS Posted November 18, 2009 Share #57 Posted November 18, 2009 Thanks for taking the time and the effort Maurizio. Im with you that there is room in the world for more that than one Lecia 50mm. I understand that these are not scientific test but from your example's and my own results , for my money "my" Noctilux is more than capable of functioning as a normal lens and at this point i have no desire to get the Lecia 1.4 version. Again thanks for taking the time to show us these results. I look forward to seeing more of your images in the future. Gregory Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
tom0511 Posted November 18, 2009 Share #58 Posted November 18, 2009 Maurizio, thanks for posting the images. I am still undecided. I do like the higher sharpness of the 50asph, but I also like the bokeh of the Nocti. The asph at f1.4 looks pretty nice as well though. I dislike that one can see the segments of the aparture in the images which are not wide open (by the way I lately compared the 50asph vs the Sigma50/1.4 on Nikon and the Sigma did not show this phenomen. For some reason I feel the new nocti could be THE lens for me, but the price is awfull. I need some more time and I am thankfull for any images. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest mc_k Posted November 18, 2009 Share #59 Posted November 18, 2009 ...I dislike that one can see the segments of the aperture in the images which are not wide open (by the way I lately compared the 50asph vs the Sigma50/1.4 on Nikon and the Sigma did not show this phenomenon... I am really confused on this. I am surprised that it doesn't seem to bother more people. Also, I know longer have any idea why the blades show or don't show. Number of blades does not seem to decide it. (?) I'm sure you will never see it in the 50 lux pre, but you will in the 50 lux asph. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest mc_k Posted November 19, 2009 Share #60 Posted November 19, 2009 EDIT: sorry, that should be "I no longer have any idea..." Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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