chris_tribble Posted October 27, 2009 Share #1 Posted October 27, 2009 Advertisement (gone after registration) Just noticed that after the sound and fury around 9/9 all we seem to be getting at the moment is discussions of "desert island lenses" or "what bag for the M9". I have the distinct feeling that those of us who have one are simply very very pleased ... Things to look forward to? Firmware upgrade: - I'd like to add more to the INFO information screen (get rid of the bar indicators and replace with % fore battery / number of shots remaining for card) ADD ISO information. Finalised LR profile for Lightroom Possible tweaks to AWB under tungsten. Can't think of much else! The Leica M9. It lets you take pictures that you like and your clients like. End of story for the moment... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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BerndReini Posted October 27, 2009 Share #2 Posted October 27, 2009 I agree. Thank Goodness, the hardcore M8 community at least is keeping things interesting by throwing rocks at us. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnbuckley Posted October 27, 2009 Share #3 Posted October 27, 2009 It's so funny you'd write this. In July, I'd all but given up on the M8 Forum, because there was nothing much to talk about, or so it seemed. And then came the first rumor of the M9... But yes: compare this moment, six weeks after the release of the M9, to six weeks after the release of the M8, and the relative level of calm on the forum is good news -- for Leica, and all of us. Now if they could just get M9s to those who have been patiently going crazy waiting for them... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Fines Posted October 27, 2009 Share #4 Posted October 27, 2009 Last week I was shooting at sunset with an M9. Was just a minute from the really nice light starting as the sun was just about to peek out from behind a cloud. Noticed the SD card had 18 pics left, so I put in a new one so as not to need to switch as the light got nicer. Hit the format button. I didn't time it but it seemed like about 3 minutes to format. Sun was halfway to the horizon before the darned camera was ready to go. So, as to the first "not much else" comment I'd certainly say they need to fix the card format routine in the camera. In the meantime, I'll do the in camera format of my cards before going out. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest EarlBurrellPhoto Posted October 27, 2009 Share #5 Posted October 27, 2009 I agree. Thank Goodness, the hardcore M8 community at least is keeping things interesting by throwing rocks at us. That's because we now have to delete tens of thousands of images and re-shoot everything from the past three years, because our M8 images are just so appallingly inadequate now that our cameras are so hopelessly obsolete. Not to mention our genitalia so hideously undersized.... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
michael friedberg Posted October 27, 2009 Share #6 Posted October 27, 2009 Perhaps that's due in part to the hundreds, perhaps thousands, of forum members here, including me, who are twiddling their thumbs waiting for an M9 to arrive. Until then, there's not much to do or say about them after 7 weeks. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
piero Posted October 27, 2009 Share #7 Posted October 27, 2009 Advertisement (gone after registration) lovely camera the M9... indeed. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
michali Posted October 27, 2009 Share #8 Posted October 27, 2009 Chris, I couldn't agree more. In fact I alluded to the same topic when I wrote about this yesterday in another thread, in which the original poster IMO was mischievously trying to wind everyone up about the M9 being a flawed camera or something along those lines.... QUOTE: "I was fortunate to get my M9 on 11 September and have used it every day since then. If there were any issues, I feel that we users here probably would have picked these up by now. Even though in my case at least, I'm not a pixel peeper. I used the camera continuously for a week in some fairly harsh conditions during a yacht race, and so far (touch wood) no issues. It's frozen up once, but that's because of my own stupidity, I wasn't thinking and took a shot with the lens cap on, nothing a battery removal couldn't sort out. IMO the M9 is an amazing tool which I love using (as I still do my M8), and have yet to find anything with it that really irritates or annoys me, even though mine is a Grey Silver model. If there was anything really seriously wrong with the M9 we would have all been screaming at the top of our voices on this Forum! And I guess we wouldn't be seeing some of the threads we've been seeing here about colour co-ordination of lenses and a whole lot of other, in my mind inconsequential matters, and yes, I accept that everyone has a right to voice their opinions, no matter how inconsequential or trivial these may seem to some. Other than 1 or 2 very unlucky users who ended up with lines on their M9 sensors, there don't seem to be too many problems with the cameras out there." Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArtZ Posted October 27, 2009 Share #9 Posted October 27, 2009 In fact I alluded to the same topic when I wrote about this yesterday in another thread, in which the original poster IMO was mischievously trying to wind everyone up about the M9 being a flawed camera or something along those lines.... Pffff... IMHO you're mischievously trying to wind everyone up about the M9 being THE perfect camera... No problems so far... no magenta on the left, no wierd artifacts, no freezes... Please, stop apologizing. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnbuckley Posted October 27, 2009 Share #10 Posted October 27, 2009 Pffff... IMHO you're mischievously trying to wind everyone up about the M9 being THE perfect camera... No problems so far... no magenta on the left, no wierd artifacts, no freezes... Please, stop apologizing. Oh, it's not the perfect camera. But it's the closest we've come so far... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
noah_addis Posted October 27, 2009 Share #11 Posted October 27, 2009 I can think of a few improvements...but I'll reserve most judgement until I get back from Brazil, where I'm heading tomorrow to finish a story. Here are a few things I'd like fixed, some can definitely be addressed in firmware: 1. I'd like a keylock function. 2. The formatting of cards is incredibly slow. 3. It's even worse if you accidentally select overwrite. I'd rather have overwrite as a totally separate menu item, though I don't see the point in it at all and in fact I'd rather NOT have it. For instance, if I'm in a dodgy situation and someone forces me format a card, I'd rather just do a normal format and have a chance to recover the images later. Having this option could make potential cops/criminals/etc. make me overwrite the cards then the images would be gone forever. It's a serious problem and I don't know what the folks at Leica were thinking. 4. The camera should operate normally without the baseplate. A warning is fine, but I should be able to work without it if needed in case it gets lost or damaged. In particular formatting a bunch of cards is a pain in the neck since I have to keep replacing the baseplate. These are minor issues and some apply to the M8 as well. The camera seems to perform well and really I think it's the digital M we should have had from the beginning. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mhoersch Posted October 27, 2009 Share #12 Posted October 27, 2009 Well Chris, if you enjoy the quiet here I can recommend a look at the S2 forum - the quiet over there is just like that of a dark cemetery on a wet november night. As for this forum, there seem to be a few dozen (maybe even hundred) people who've actually got an M9. By now they have either vented their consternation about missing top display and sapphire screen cover, yet another set of frame lines, still that idiotic main switch, grey paint instead of chrome finish, extremely strong vignetting, strange one sided color casts, and not to forget the M8's beloved camera freezes of old, and so on - or they have sung their praises, finally babbled enough about paradigm shifts and the re-invention of photography, or finished composing their "humble odes". And there seem to be a few thousand other people who can't get their hands on a single camera and have become a bit tired of wondering and guessing why Leica apparently can't produce the cameras they have so much hurried to rush out and make a lot of money with. And there may be others who, like me, took a look at all the above and said: "No, thank you, I don't need an M8.3 in the guise of an M9, and I can wait for a real successor to my M8." So, there isn't much left to make a lot of noise about, is there? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ario Arioldi Posted October 27, 2009 Share #13 Posted October 27, 2009 Just noticed that after the sound and fury around 9/9 all we seem to be getting at the moment is discussions of "desert island lenses" or "what bag for the M9". I have the distinct feeling that those of us who have one are simply very very pleased ... Things to look forward to? Firmware upgrade: - I'd like to add more to the INFO information screen (get rid of the bar indicators and replace with % fore battery / number of shots remaining for card) ADD ISO information. Finalised LR profile for Lightroom Possible tweaks to AWB under tungsten. Can't think of much else! The Leica M9. It lets you take pictures that you like and your clients like. End of story for the moment... The FW upgrade should possibly improve the SD management: 1 min+ for the regular formatting of a 8GB SDHC card is definitely too much. Fine tuning of the in camera vignetting correction is also advisable Cheers, Ario Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
markgay Posted October 27, 2009 Share #14 Posted October 27, 2009 Gloriously boring! Yes. I feel very comfortable with my M8, and no urgency to change to the M9. Instead of buying an M9 I paid the same price for an HPX170 to add broadcast-quality moving pictures to my repertoire, rather than something which duplicates what I can already do with my M8. All it suggests is that full frame is not, after all, the game changer we thought it was. Regards, Mark An' another thing: The M7 still calls. My one year-old son is not going to bother with my old computer, is he? I just was given a print, from the glass plate, of my grandfather in the sailing boat he received for his 21st birthday in 1934. There he is, on Stoney Lake, Ontario, just offshore of our historic cottage, now sadly lost to the family. What we still have are real images and not just the prints. Don't kid yourself that anyone will be going through your digital files 100 years from now. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
adan Posted October 27, 2009 Share #15 Posted October 27, 2009 Only bug for me is the offset red edge in wide-angle shots - and if Sandy's CornerFix can handle it, Leica should be able to tweak the firmware. Mark, don't kid yourself. How many grandkids will go through our stacks of slide trays and shoeboxes (or even file cabinets) of negatives? That HPX looks tasty - good shooting! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest WPalank Posted October 27, 2009 Share #16 Posted October 27, 2009 [*]Finalised LR profile for Lightroom [*]Possible tweaks to AWB under tungsten. Chris, It's been brought up in at least two other threads. Why not get this little gadget which I think is a steal at $99 and create profiles that are specific to the sensor in your camera? X-Rite: Get exactly the color you need, every time, anywhere in the world. If you already have a Colorchecker card (I bought mine years ago), the software is free from the website. You can make a Tungsten profile as well. Once you shoot the card and have the image in LR, it literally takes less than 20 seconds to create a profile. Andrew Rodney, one of the Pixel Genius guys and author of this book: Amazon.com: Color Management for Photographers: Hands on Techniques for Photoshop Users (9780240806495): Andrew Rodney: Books wrote in another Forum that he is getting better profiles from this system than the free Adobe DNG editor. And it's much easier to use. Just my 2 cents and your 99 dollars! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonoslack Posted October 27, 2009 Share #17 Posted October 27, 2009 An' another thing: The M7 still calls. My one year-old son is not going to bother with my old computer, is he? I just was given a print, from the glass plate, of my grandfather in the sailing boat he received for his 21st birthday in 1934. There he is, on Stoney Lake, Ontario, just offshore of our historic cottage, now sadly lost to the family. What we still have are real images and not just the prints. Don't kid yourself that anyone will be going through your digital files 100 years from now. Quite right - but then, it's about volume most of all - my father died recently, and most of his good work had already been passed on to libraries and galleries (he was very good). But there were tens of thousands of of slides, and of negatives . . . In the end they were simply thrown away. If you want your 1 year old to look at your pictures you'll do no better leaving him a box of slides or a book of negatives (what on earth will he do with those in 60 years time!), you'll have to make sure that there is a small number of accessible pictures in a sensible format . . . Which probably leads us all to blurb.com! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrism Posted October 27, 2009 Share #18 Posted October 27, 2009 To be fair to both sides, I think we can agree that the M8.x was the best digital rangefinder we had until September (pace RD-1 fans). Anyone who still believes that the M8.x is even now, the best digital rangefinder may buy my 8.2 at the price it deserves given that exalted position, rather than the sorry price it would fetch on the open market nowadays. No? Well, I didn't really think there would be any takers. Now whether the putative advantages of the M9 are worth the price is a question for the buyer when he looks at his needs and his purse. No one can gainsay him as the price is the same for all of us, but the worth varies from person to person. Personally, I am delighted that the forum isn't filled with complaints, as I would selfishly prefer Leica to be around for just as long as I am. Chris Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ModernMan Posted October 28, 2009 Share #19 Posted October 28, 2009 If you'd like to liven things up I could put together a post about 20+ features that the M10 should have. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
michali Posted October 28, 2009 Share #20 Posted October 28, 2009 If you'd like to liven things up I could put together a post about 20+ features that the M10 should have. To quote the 4 vultures from The Jungle Book, "Things are dead all over......so what we gonna do?...... I don't know what you wanna do?....I don't know what we gonna do?...... Oh no don't start that again......" Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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