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Would you use an Elmar 50 F 2.8 latest model on a M8?

Does anyone have had good results?

Any risk to damage the M8 when folding the 50mm Elmar into the M8?

Can you use the Elmar 50 with old accessories like the 4 feet closu up device (Well known A3, A4, A5 copying gauge?

Many thanks in advnace.

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To amplify Bill's brief but succinct response -

1. Yes, I have and will again use it - brilliant lens

2. Superb results

3. There's only about 1mm clearance when collapsed - so never mount/un-mount it when collapsed.

4.No.

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There are other 50 2.8 threads, but they usually don't give the version. I would love to know more about the last version.

 

If you take the M8 manual at face-value, it does not recommend collapsing. Same with the r-d1 manual. Looks like everyone collapses it on the M8, though. I had a question...do you grip the tube to unlock it for collapsing? There is not much room for my fingers.

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Mine is about the last version, silver, no coding, around 1994. I use it most of the time since I've bought it. No problems at all both collapsed or not.

Is an outstanding lens, not expensive, smal, light and very sharp though with a pleasant vintage render.

I usually mount and dismount collapsed and nothing happens.

Somebody demonstrated without doubt on this forum that after collapsing the lens and putting to infinite focus, there is still 5mm beetween the bottom of the lens and the shutter.

 

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Can you use the Elmar 50 with old accessories like the 4 feet closu up device (Well known A3, A4, A5 copying gauge?

Many thanks in advnace.

 

Yes, that means sort of... The crop-factor of the M8 makes a 67mm out of our good old Elmar, so the A4, A5, A6 measures won't fit. But you can use it, if you adopt. Here are some examples (with a 3.5/50 red scale Elmar):

 

http://www.l-camera-forum.com/leica-forum/leica-sammler-historica/100504-leica-wissenschaft-leitz-literaturthread-4.html#post1064340

 

The M9 was made for full use of the BOWUU. ;)

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Yes, that means sort of... The crop-factor of the M8 makes a 67mm out of our good old Elmar, so the A4, A5, A6 measures won't fit. But you can use it, if you adopt. Here are some examples (with a 3.5/50 red scale Elmar):

 

http://www.l-camera-forum.com/leica-forum/leica-sammler-historica/100504-leica-wissenschaft-leitz-literaturthread-4.html#post1064340

 

The M9 was made for full use of the BOWUU. ;)

 

No....

 

The OP specifically referred to the latest model lens - ie the 50mm 2.8 Elmar-M. This lens cannot be used with the earlier accessories.

 

Regards,

 

Bill

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P.S. I have not had the lens very long but I love it so far. I find it easy to focus...the ring is bigger than you expect and it's not at all like focusing an old-fashioned collapsible of the same size. I think it looks great wide open. I shoot mostly at 2 or 2.8. I have a 50 lux asph and it's hard to beat, but it has these star-shaped highlight circles (gone at 1.4) that bother me. (Maybe there is a better term than "highlight circles"?) Anyway I got the Elmar to shoot at 2.8, and we will see.

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The OP specifically referred to the latest model lens - ie the 50mm 2.8 Elmar-M. This lens cannot be used with the earlier accessories.

 

Regards,

 

Bill

 

I read in Laney' Collector's Guide (p. 410) that there was a BOOWU-M (16526) to be used with M-mount lenses, except Summarit and Summilux. Is there a special reason that you cannot use the Elmar's last version with this?

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I read in Laney' Collector's Guide (p. 410) that there was a BOOWU-M (16526) to be used with M-mount lenses, except Summarit and Summilux. Is there a special reason that you cannot use the Elmar's last version with this?

 

The BOOWU-M (16526) has a socket to fit the bayonet on the back of the collapsing tube on the original 50/2.8 Elmar (plus some other collapsible 50mm lenses, though I'm not sure which). You can also use the lens head of an old rigid Summicron via the 16508 adapter.

 

For better or worse the later 50/2.8 Elmar-M has a different, rectilinear, focusing mount. That could account for it not working on the BOOWU-M - but I've never had the chance to check for myself.

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The BOOWU-M (16526) has a socket to fit the bayonet on the back of the collapsing tube on the original 50/2.8 Elmar (plus some other collapsible 50mm lenses, though I'm not sure which). You can also use the lens head of an old rigid Summicron via the 16508 adapter.

 

For better or worse the later 50/2.8 Elmar-M has a different, rectilinear, focusing mount. That could account for it not working on the BOOWU-M - but I've never had the chance to check for myself.

 

Exactly. I attended one of Brian Bower's courses a few years ago where he demonstrated this. It simply can't be done.

 

Regards,

 

Bill

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