coronita Posted September 23, 2009 Share #1 Posted September 23, 2009 Advertisement (gone after registration) Hello, friends I am rather new here, but not at photography. ¿Is it wrong to post a recomendation about an article, one self has produced? I hope not. I know it is written in spanish, but images and google translation can do wonders. Best Valentin DSLR Magazine Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Advertisement Posted September 23, 2009 Posted September 23, 2009 Hi coronita, Take a look here Pre-producction sample test. I'm sure you'll find what you were looking for!
jackart Posted September 23, 2009 Share #2 Posted September 23, 2009 Just read it. Quite detailed analysis of the lens (and I'm satisfied) and ISO noise, compared to earlier short reviews. Google translate to english thank's Coronita! Jaak Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
coronita Posted September 23, 2009 Author Share #3 Posted September 23, 2009 Just read it. Quite detailed analysis of the lens (and I'm satisfied) and ISO noise, compared to earlier short reviews. Google translate to english thank's Coronita! Jaak Thanks for your kind input, Jaak Best Valentin Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest stnami Posted September 23, 2009 Share #4 Posted September 23, 2009 All a bit of cut and paste affair........... nothing that doesn't appear elsewhere.The rest most could have guessed Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nhabedi Posted September 23, 2009 Share #5 Posted September 23, 2009 All a bit of cut and paste affair........... nothing that doesn't appear elsewhere.The rest most could have guessed From this it is pretty obvious that you haven't even read the article... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
J Mitchum Posted September 23, 2009 Share #6 Posted September 23, 2009 I'm a bit worried. I know it's a pre-production camera and all but thus far all the sample pictures I've seen look... well... awful. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted September 23, 2009 Share #7 Posted September 23, 2009 Advertisement (gone after registration) Wonderful review Valentin, thank you very much! And very honest, because what you do not mention is just as relevant as what is written in your review. Not one word about speed (shutter lag, shot to shot RAW flash off etc.). One other question, since you tested the X1: is there a ring around the lens base at all, that can be taken off -thread or bayonet- to be replaced by a lenshood, like the D-lux4 or Ricohs? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest stnami Posted September 23, 2009 Share #8 Posted September 23, 2009 Yep I did read it so can the bullshit Edi ...... If you accept with what/how etc was written so be it, so don't cast dispersions.............. I could call you a pretentious git but I cannot confirm if you are one so I will not call you a pretentious git. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nhabedi Posted September 23, 2009 Share #9 Posted September 23, 2009 can the bullshit Edi [...] I could call you a pretentious git Congratulations on being the first forum member on my ignore list! I certainly have better things to do than reading insults from schoolboys... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest stnami Posted September 23, 2009 Share #10 Posted September 23, 2009 You are the one who accussed me of not reading the article something that wasn't true so why did you lie? I never called you a pretentious git, I did say I could, maybe you have a reading problem, or you just like restructuring sentences to suit your own anger............... I really don't care who you put on your ignore list. Then again as you have lied already this ignore list bizzo could be another lie:p......... maybe one of your mates will tell you what transpired Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LUF Admin Posted September 23, 2009 Share #11 Posted September 23, 2009 OKOKOK - everybody can calm down again - OK? Thanks Andreas Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shootist Posted September 23, 2009 Share #12 Posted September 23, 2009 OKOKOK - everybody can calm down again - OK? Thanks Andreas Andreas why don't you give everyone a break and get rid of stnami (Imants). He is always starting something then blaming the other person. Has he ever posted anything of actual value to the forum or any member of the forum? He is childish, inconsiderate and a total bore. Of course that is just my opinion. Oh and I don't care for his photography or what he might think is Art. Again that is my opinion. Don't worry I have put him on my ignore list and never respond directly to him. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest stnami Posted September 23, 2009 Share #13 Posted September 23, 2009 Shoots I never accused anyone of not reading the article, which is how it started................ evidently you read what I wrote but not what the other person wrote . Maybe you should keep your own personal vendettas to yourself. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted September 24, 2009 Share #14 Posted September 24, 2009 It is easy to press the ignore button regarding someone, who is asking for it constantly. Why interfere with people, who do a great job, as the the admins, but if they decide to, only newcomers would notice it. It is much more frustrating to notice that a camera, that is exactelly what many were asking for and is an absolute jewel, will eventually reach the market with major flaws. Asking the almost triple price (yes! because the other one sells out already) of a very good camera that is slow unfortunatelly, leady to 2-5 posts per day, not counting infighting, polite salutes and posts not directly related to the X1. To guess expected sales figures is something for the marketing people and I'm not a specialist. I'd rather wait for six months and have an X1 -with a faster buffer, -the RAW only option and the dark screen mode, too (no review= no chimping) and a -simple thread at the lens base, that takes a D-Lux 4 like tube=lensshade, so that the wonderful optic is a lot less vulnerable when in working position. Ixus buyers and Leica buyers differ, but of cause nobody would be forced to put on a lens shade. To expect significant sales without offering the black body option, while seing how micro 4/3 buyers paciently wait for the GF1 is a decision I could live with. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ljclark Posted September 24, 2009 Share #15 Posted September 24, 2009 I'd rather wait for six months and have an X1 -with a faster buffer, We don't know the production camera buffer speed. -the RAW only option and the dark screen mode, too (no review= no chimping) and a And don't forget Kelvin settings -- any and all of which can be fixed with firmware for the production camera -simple thread at the lens base, that takes a D-Lux 4 like tube=lensshade, so that the wonderful optic is a lot less vulnerable when in working position. Filters and hoods don't require threads on the camera. Think outside the box. To expect significant sales without offering the black body option, while seing how micro 4/3 buyers paciently wait for the GF1 is a decision I could live with. Don't understand this last one. The primary market for this camera likely cares very little for all black. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted September 24, 2009 Share #16 Posted September 24, 2009 We don't know the production camera buffer speed. The primary market for this camera likely cares very little for all black. Either one knows it all (including what the primary market cares for) or not. As I said, I'm not a specialist and only know what I would buy. With slow RAW (as was described by a forum member, who tested the X1 in the Far East during a presentation) and a sub-M shutter lag it could turn out to be futile to diffentiate between primary, secondary and if there is such a thing, tertiary markets. Unlike a protection for an extending lens, the color is no central issue for me. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nhabedi Posted September 24, 2009 Share #17 Posted September 24, 2009 With slow RAW (as was described by a forum member, who tested the X1 in the Far East during a presentation) As was repeatedly stated: This forum member did not test an X1. He briefly played around with a pre-production model. And I seem to remember he was told that the final product would behave differently. I don't see the point of complaining about non-existing cameras ad nauseam. You certainly don't have to buy it if you don't like the color or if you think something's missing, but you shouldn't try to bad-mouth it based on unsubstantiated claims. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ljclark Posted September 24, 2009 Share #18 Posted September 24, 2009 With slow RAW (as was described by a forum member, who tested the X1 in the Far East during a presentation) and a sub-M shutter lag Oh. I see now. This guy in the Far East managed to get his hands on the only production version of the X1 in the known universe months before the first production cameras are available. Therefore, we know exactly how the X1 will behave even before the lot of production cameras (from which this sample was taken) was actually manufactured. So is this (a) time travel or ( something from a parallel (or near parallel) universe? It is so much easier to review cameras and form opinions when you are not restricted by physics, that pesky time-space continuum thingy, or the chronosynclastic infundibulum. I, on the other hand, am stuck in this galaxy (actually, this planet) and this dimension...And will have to wait for the arrival of actual production models before forming an opinion first hand, or from the efforts of mere mortal reviewers similarly restricted. Sigh. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted September 24, 2009 Share #19 Posted September 24, 2009 Oh. I see now. This guy in the Far East managed to get his hands on the only production version of the X1 in the known universe months before the first production cameras are available. Therefore, we know exactly how the X1 will behave even before the lot of production cameras (from which this sample was taken) was actually manufactured. So is this (a) time travel or ( something from a parallel (or near parallel) universe? It is so much easier to review cameras and form opinions when you are not restricted by physics, that pesky time-space continuum thingy, or the chronosynclastic infundibulum. I, on the other hand, am stuck in this galaxy (actually, this planet) and this dimension...And will have to wait for the arrival of actual production models before forming an opinion first hand, or from the efforts of mere mortal reviewers similarly restricted. Sigh. Your great sense of humour is very much apreciated! Diferent people react differently when waiting for their objects of desire. I'm sure everything will be ju-ust fine and the most beautiful camera of this millenium will be under each one's Christmas tree. Also under habedi's. Take it easy, habedi and be ! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JackTheRipper Posted September 27, 2009 Share #20 Posted September 27, 2009 I liked it coronita, thanks a lot! what do you think about the image quality though? the two sample pics you posted didn't look too good to me....? I have never owned a leica before so the X1 fits my budget, I love how when you cut it on it shows the Leica logo on the display (assuming it does this from the pic) I've actually never even touched a Leica... thanks again! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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