jaapv Posted July 4, 2013 Share #1 Posted July 4, 2013 Advertisement (gone after registration) Who is this? The designer of the CMOSIS sensor of Leica. If you read Dutch: in Digifoto Pro magazine. Very interesting for what is said between the lines and background, less for technical information. - It would be no surprise to see an S with CMOSIS before long, for instance. In the same issue quite a positive roadtest of the M as well. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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jaapv Posted July 5, 2013 Author Share #2 Posted July 5, 2013 The whole process is quit interesting. It appears that Leica approached CMOSIS after they found that no off-the-shelf sensor was able to perform adequately with Leica lenses. Sony is specifically mentioned as non-suitable (this puts a rather different perspective on the wishful thinking about a FF NEX btw). The sensor and the camera were developed in tandem in 2011, tested through 2012. The wafers are produced by STMicroelectronics in France because, as a maker of small-pixel sensors they have an expertise in making high-precision large pixels. The wafers are shipped to Antwerp, cut, selected and farmed out to another Belgian firm to be married to the hardware, returned to and tested by CMOSIS and then batch-shipped to Leica. There were candid interior shots of the company showing stacks of boxes with finished Leica sensors, so the rumors about a sensor shortage are just hot air. Anyway, if any of our forum experts are interested, there are nine vacancies. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
StephenPatterson Posted July 5, 2013 Share #3 Posted July 5, 2013 Sony is specifically mentioned as non-suitable (this puts a rather different perspective on the wishful thinking about a FF NEX btw). Thanks Jaap, and I have no dog in this fight, but have you seen this article where a 50 Summilux ASPH is tested on a full frame Sony sensor? A Full-Frame Sony NEX Put to the Test Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaapv Posted July 5, 2013 Author Share #4 Posted July 5, 2013 No. It was a simple interview with the sensor designer, the mention of the unsuitable Sony sensors was just a casual remark. I would imagine though, that the Apo-Summicron would not be one of the problem lenses. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
theno23 Posted July 5, 2013 Share #5 Posted July 5, 2013 If its the old angle of incidence problem then it affects wide angle lenses. I do t see why that would affect Sony, as their FX lenses could be telecentric, but I've not read the article (don't read Dutch), so maybe it's some other issue? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
StephenPatterson Posted July 5, 2013 Share #6 Posted July 5, 2013 Well certainly if Leica were looking at an "off the shelf" solution from Sony in 2010 I'm sure they came up disappointed, however I don't believe micro lenses are outside of Sony's sensor engineers abilities. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaapv Posted July 5, 2013 Author Share #7 Posted July 5, 2013 Advertisement (gone after registration) If its the old angle of incidence problem then it affects wide angle lenses. I do t see why that would affect Sony, as their FX lenses could be telecentric, but I've not read the article (don't read Dutch), so maybe it's some other issue? The article does not go into that kind of technicality. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dwbell Posted July 5, 2013 Share #8 Posted July 5, 2013 The whole process is quit interesting. It appears that Leica approached CMOSIS after they found that no off-the-shelf sensor was able to perform adequately with Leica lenses. Sony is specifically mentioned as non-suitable (this puts a rather different perspective on the wishful thinking about a FF NEX btw). The sensor and the camera were developed in tandem in 2011, tested through 2012. The wafers are produced by STMicroelectronics in France because, as a maker of small-pixel sensors they have an expertise in making high-precision large pixels. The wafers are shipped to Antwerp, cut, selected and farmed out to another Belgian firm to be married to the hardware, returned to and tested by CMOSIS and then batch-shipped to Leica. There were candid interior shots of the company showing stacks of boxes with finished Leica sensors, so the rumors about a sensor shortage are just hot air. Anyway, if any of our forum experts are interested, there are nine vacancies. Meow! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
erlingmm Posted July 5, 2013 Share #9 Posted July 5, 2013 Who is this? - It would be no surprise to see an S with CMOSIS before long, for instance.In the same issue quite a positive roadtest of the M as well. S with CMOS? THAT would be interesting.... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mjh Posted July 5, 2013 Share #10 Posted July 5, 2013 I do t see why that would affect Sony, as their FX lenses could be telecentric, but I've not read the article (don't read Dutch), so maybe it's some other issue? Surely Sony’s lenses would be (near) telecentric but large incident angles would still be an issue if you tried to use Sony’s sensor with existing M lenses. Some people appear to believe that once Sony would introduce a FF EVIL body, this could be a replacement for the M; I am not so sure about that (even disregarding the fact that at least some M photographers use the M because they actually prefer rangefinders, not just because it’s the only mirrorless FF camera on the market). Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
StephenPatterson Posted July 5, 2013 Share #11 Posted July 5, 2013 Some people appear to believe that once Sony would introduce a FF EVIL body, this could be a replacement for the M; I am not so sure about that (even disregarding the fact that at least some M photographers use the M because they actually prefer rangefinders, not just because it’s the only mirrorless FF camera on the market). The coming war will not be for the vaulted high ground (where the rangefinders live), it will be for the mid-ground, lower cost, second body/backup, entry level EVIL that will accept all those hundreds of thousands of legacy M mount lenses. Leica will absolutely be a participant in this war, as will Sony, Fuji and others. It's only a matter of time... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
marknorton Posted July 6, 2013 Share #12 Posted July 6, 2013 Now that his 15 minutes of fame are over, I wonder what his reaction to the AP review of his sensor is? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
k-hawinkler Posted July 6, 2013 Share #13 Posted July 6, 2013 Now that his 15 minutes of fame are over, I wonder what his reaction to the AP review of his sensor is? URL? Thanks. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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