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Size comparison? M9 vs 5D mark II


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Hello,

 

Has anyone done a size comparison between the m9 with the 50mm 1.4 summilux vs say a 5D Mark II with a 50mm 1.2 L lens?

 

Everyone including myself loves small size of the M9 kit, but usually we compare to DSLR with a zoom lens. How about a DSLR with a fixed lens?

 

Just trying to play devil's advocate. I know that the Canon gear has amazing fixed focal length lenses.

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Well, this shows the M8 with 50 f/2, 35 f/2, 15 f//4.5 and 90 f/2.8 next to the 5DMk2 with 85 and 20mm primes.

 

M9 is same size as M8.

 

Generally speaking, you could fit a Leica prime lens inside the equivalent Canon AF lens with space left over for it to rattle around.

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My current favorite combo is the 1DsIII with the excellent EF 85L 1.2. Roughly 2250 g. A joy to use and shoot, but also a brick to handle.

 

I'm currently waiting for my M9. Paired with the 90 Summicron that would give only 1085 g in an equally smaller package.

 

Another favorite of me: 5D II with the EF 35L 1.4 for point and shoot on the street. Compare it to the M9 with the 35 Summilux or 1390 g vs 905 g.

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For me, it's more about the amount of glass surface area I'm pointing at people than the length or width of the lens. People notice large glass surfaces. Smaller surfaces -- especially relative to the size of the camera, attract less attention. And that's where the Leica glass really shines, so to speak. When I put the Nokton 50mm f/1.1 on my Leica (which has bigger glass than the Canon 50mm 1.4), I feel like I'm using my Canon gear again even though the camera body itself is smaller.

 

What's also nice is that I can carry around the M9 (w/lens attached) and two additional lenses in a bag that I'd be hard-pressed to fit the 5D + 50mm into. Of course the small size doesn't matter if I need, say, a 70-200 zoom or a tilt-shift lens.

 

I have to admit that when I compare the size-to-cost ratio of, say, the Leica 35mm f/2 to the less-expensive Canon 17mm ts-e ( http://www.kenrockwell.com/canon/lenses/images/17mm-tse/17mm-tse.jpg ) for example, I do feel like I'm being financially abused. :-)

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I have used the 5d with 35-1.4 and it was quite impossible to fit this in my "normal" bags (crumpler and stuff). This has changed since I own the M8 (currently with 24-1.4), which fits perfectly. This is the reason why the M8 is with my everytime - I'm happy :)

 

Michael

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Slightly related - has somebody photos of the M8 (or M9) next to the K-7 from Pentax or does someone here have both and can tell us a bit about how they compare in terms of handling? I almost never used SLRs and I don't have a dSLR, but what I've recently read about the K-7 made me think that this would be one to consider, especially given the price and the size and weight, if I would ever want a dSLR. I understand it is still bigger and heavier than a Leica, but I wonder what that means in practice, in particular if you are using primes and not honky zooms.

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Slightly related - has somebody photos of the M8 (or M9) next to the K-7 from Pentax or does someone here have both and can tell us a bit about how they compare in terms of handling?

 

I had a K20D with Pentax pancake lenses and tried the K7. Optically, the lenses were quite good and the body was nice to use.

But exposure was not very good, AWB was not working below 4000K (and described as such in the manual). Ok I could live with that.

However, I had lot of AF issues and as soon as the subject is moving, the Pentax bodies are not up to the task in my opinion.

 

To give you and idea, I shot my son on a slow sled with the Pentax and most of the pictures were out of focus. I had a better success rate with the M8.

 

I ended up trading all my Pentax gear for a Nikon D90. Not perfect but much, much better when it comes to AF and it nails the exposure and the WB most of the time.

 

When it comes to size, the M still has the advantage from my point of view. Because I can take more lenses, because the body itself is smaller. Basically, I fit the M8 with 24/2.8, 28/2, 50/1.4 and 75/2 in a bag where the D90 or the Pentax with a small price would not.

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