fotolebrocq Posted September 28, 2009 Share #1 Posted September 28, 2009 Advertisement (gone after registration) I have been told by Robert White (UK) that Leica is on short time in both their production factory and repair centre. This is a little worrying, not only from a delivery point of view but also how safe is Leica as a viable company? Why short time when demand is so great? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Advertisement Posted September 28, 2009 Posted September 28, 2009 Hi fotolebrocq, Take a look here Leica on Short working week. I'm sure you'll find what you were looking for!
Guest roey Posted September 28, 2009 Share #2 Posted September 28, 2009 In the German forum there is some speculation about a lack of parts slowing down production: http://www.l-camera-forum.com/leica-forum/forum-zur-leica-m9/100211-lieferprobleme-bei-der-m9.html Sounds reasonable given the low amounts trickling into the US market (allegedly 8 last week, 20 the week before). Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
earleygallery Posted September 28, 2009 Share #3 Posted September 28, 2009 Here we go again.......... Lots of companies have taken steps to cut costs in the current climate, 4 day weeks, unpaid holidays, no bonus schemes etc etc., its the economy and little matter of a worldwwide recession that's to blame. My company have taken another option, just make some of us redundant. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Artichoke Posted September 28, 2009 Share #4 Posted September 28, 2009 Leica is being very careful with the early M9 release, not wishing to repeat the hit they took with the M8's problems which resulted from its premature introduction I suspect the hold up may be the sensor, though this is conjecture Leica is likely being very strict with QC & such a large sensor would be more prone to having defects such as hot pixels they don't want any of the early release cameras going out with defects, so their QC is maximally cranked up whatever the cause, I believe Leica is taking the right approach they will release no M9 before its time better to have a few delighted owners posting their happy experiences, than to have disgruntled customers who could quench the excellent early publicity the M9 enjoys Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mby Posted September 28, 2009 Share #5 Posted September 28, 2009 Are you sure that Leica camera AG is on short work and not Leica Geosystems AG? Best, Michael Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
fotolebrocq Posted September 28, 2009 Author Share #6 Posted September 28, 2009 No it is Leica Camera and my dealer was bemoaning the fact that with such huge demand they are basically working part time Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cocker Posted September 28, 2009 Share #7 Posted September 28, 2009 Advertisement (gone after registration) This is a little worrying, not only from a delivery point of view but also how safe is Leica as a viable company? Why short time when demand is so great? Oh dear! Isn't being a consumer a stressful process? Perhaps Leica are being wise by realising that many people who want an M9 do posess some patience whereas if Leica spend their pennies too quickly Leica might not be there - its called cash-flow. Perhaps they are still able to take a long-term view of their business. After all they are "Old-Europe". Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
george_b Posted September 28, 2009 Share #8 Posted September 28, 2009 - its called cash-flow. I could help their cash flow . . . deliver me an M9. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bill Posted September 28, 2009 Share #9 Posted September 28, 2009 Oh dear! Isn't being a consumer a stressful process? Perhaps Leica are being wise by realising that many people who want an M9 do posess some patience whereas if Leica spend their pennies too quickly Leica might not be there - its called cash-flow. Perhaps they are still able to take a long-term view of their business. After all they are "Old-Europe". I am sure they will get them all made before the sky falls Now, If you'll excuse me I'm going to go and worry about something more important - whether or not I changed the batteries in my tv remote last Tuesday or Wednesday... Regards, Bill Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest BigSplash Posted September 28, 2009 Share #10 Posted September 28, 2009 Leica on short working week...........It is simply unbelievable with such a huge demand for M9 and various new lenses ...A demand that they have created and orchestrated since weeks. The various threads here are telling us: Maybe the FF sensor is an issue of missing pixels etc.and this has become a bottle neck....Really, this cannot be good news? Leica is highly focussed on quality, and that is perhaps the issue that has been strategically created by Leica management to ensure high quality. Excellent, "I guess!" (Hmm...so why have they not yet fixed the M8 and M9 firmware shutter lockup issue yet?) They maybe are missing some parts a few weeks into the launch of M9 as has been reported in German thread? How can this be for such a newly released "hot" product? Maybe its a financial issue .....surely this is best solved by shipping M9's and adding extra shifts...the last thing they want is a short week. Personally I think this is all amazing. I also think Leica should announce why they are doing this action to avoid speculation. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jrc Posted September 28, 2009 Share #11 Posted September 28, 2009 Maybe it's just bullshit? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
arthury Posted September 28, 2009 Share #12 Posted September 28, 2009 Amazing conjectures, rumors and unofficial release of info to calm the "hot-headedness" of potential customers. Whatever the justifications are, it is not working. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sdai Posted September 28, 2009 Share #13 Posted September 28, 2009 This is the time to go for a factory tour and see what's happening there. Even before it starts shipping in Japan, which counts for 10% of overall Leica sales, the company has put up a notice saying that they can't meet demand of pre-orders and delivery will be severely delayed. So where have the already built cameras gone? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
yanidel Posted September 28, 2009 Share #14 Posted September 28, 2009 it really feels like some posters are isolated from the current crisis and manufacturing realities. Almost all manufacturing companies currently work on reduced output and shifts, this is not a Leica thing. Today, increased lead times are preferred to full burden of production lines costs in an environment where there is no real visibity beyond two months. Moreover, increasing capacity is not a one day task as your whole supply chain must adjust. I would guess that if Leica does indeed experience significant demand on the M9, they will add capacity but ramp up might take a few weeks. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leicaiste Posted September 28, 2009 Share #15 Posted September 28, 2009 If there is anything true in this, don't forget that there are three factories involved in the M9 fabrication: Leica Portugal, Jenoptik and finally Leica Solms. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bill Posted September 28, 2009 Share #16 Posted September 28, 2009 Cluck, cluck, cluck, the sky is falling!!! Tell you what, let's all just be AMAZED and run around like headless chickens DEMANDING answers. For goodness' sake, people. Have you nothing better to do? Regards, Bill Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
arthury Posted September 28, 2009 Share #17 Posted September 28, 2009 Cluck, cluck, cluck, the sky is falling!!! Tell you what, let's all just be AMAZED and run around like headless chickens DEMANDING answers. For goodness' sake, people. Have you nothing better to do? Regards, Bill We can re-read Chicken Little to ourselves or to our kids or to our grandkids (if we have any). Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bill Posted September 28, 2009 Share #18 Posted September 28, 2009 We can re-read Chicken Little to ourselves or to our kids or to our grandkids (if we have any). It would be more productive than this hysteria... Regards, Bill Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
GlennB Posted September 28, 2009 Share #19 Posted September 28, 2009 If there is anything true in this, don't forget that there are three factories involved in the M9 fabrication: Leica Portugal, Jenoptik and finally Leica Solms. Actually at least four. You forgot Kodak, who makes the sensor. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ho_co Posted September 28, 2009 Share #20 Posted September 28, 2009 Now hold on. Leica recently negotiated with their employees to work through the long Christmas-New Years holiday period. Now you're saying that after winning their cooperation, Leica has reduced their hours! To my way of thinking, that's crazy. Do you have anything concrete on this--something from the German business press or something from Leica themselves? The latest news I can find (13 Sep) is about the successful intro of the M9. Leica was geared up for the M9 before it was introduced. They always run short of demand for a new product, and the M9 seems to be a gigantic hit. There's nothing new here. You don't need rumors to explain the M9 backlog: People want the camera. Nothing more than that IMHO. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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