chris_tribble Posted September 18, 2008 Share #1 Posted September 18, 2008 Advertisement (gone after registration) I never thought I'd be saying this, but I can see myself using Auto ISO a lot. Playing around with settings, but for the moment, setting 640 as max + 15th as the slowest shutter speed appears to be very helpful when working in interior light with wild variations between window areas and shaded corners. I'm quite impressed! But absolutely right re the shutter release / re-cock separation. NOT there. Best Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Guest DuquesneG Posted September 18, 2008 Share #2 Posted September 18, 2008 So that's how it works...some user input. Cool. Now if only the M8 had decent IQ at the top 2 settings (let alone go up to 6400 as is the current state of the art in uber-expensive pro digitals), auto-ISO would be a lot more useful. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
stunsworth Posted September 18, 2008 Share #3 Posted September 18, 2008 Every silver lining has its cloud. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
kic883 Posted September 18, 2008 Share #4 Posted September 18, 2008 I never thought I'd be saying this, but I can see myself using Auto ISO a lot. Playing around with settings, but for the moment, setting 640 as max + 15th as the slowest shutter speed appears to be very helpful when working in interior light with wild variations between window areas and shaded corners. I'm quite impressed! But absolutely right re the shutter release / re-cock separation. NOT there. Best Agree, it works great. I like it as well. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shootist Posted September 18, 2008 Share #5 Posted September 18, 2008 I never thought I'd be saying this, but I can see myself using Auto ISO a lot. Playing around with settings, but for the moment, setting 640 as max + 15th as the slowest shutter speed appears to be very helpful when working in interior light with wild variations between window areas and shaded corners. I'm quite impressed! But absolutely right re the shutter release / re-cock separation. NOT there. Best Yes this may become my standard settings. No for those other features you'll need a M8.2, as we all knew. No surprise here. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KM-25 Posted September 18, 2008 Share #6 Posted September 18, 2008 So that's how it works...some user input. Cool. Now if only the M8 had decent IQ at the top 2 settings (let alone go up to 6400 as is the current state of the art in uber-expensive pro digitals), auto-ISO would be a lot more useful. ISO 160-640 seems pretty darn usable to me. 1250 in a pinch for the shot my agent would kill me if I miss regardless grain / noise. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KM-25 Posted September 18, 2008 Share #7 Posted September 18, 2008 Advertisement (gone after registration) Yes this may become my standard settings.No for those other features you'll need a M8.2, as we all knew. No surprise here. 640/15th pre-Starbucks, 640/30th post.. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dpattinson Posted September 19, 2008 Share #8 Posted September 19, 2008 I never thought I'd be saying this, but I can see myself using Auto ISO a lot. Playing around with settings, but for the moment, setting 640 as max + 15th as the slowest shutter speed appears to be very helpful when working in interior light with wild variations between window areas and shaded corners. I'm quite impressed! But absolutely right re the shutter release / re-cock separation. NOT there. Best Yep - tried it out at lunch today. It works very nicely in variable light. Probably not so useful for me at night in the street, as the glare from streetlamps and headlights usually forces me to set exposure manually anyway. For that I would have liked a ceiling shutterspeed that forced exposure for the 'non lightsource' highlights. Not a big deal, as manual works fine generally anyway. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
biglouis Posted September 19, 2008 Share #9 Posted September 19, 2008 Chris For us dweebs can you explain how it works? I tried it today with minimum speed being lens dependent and max iso set to 640. Firstly, I'm not sure what Lens Dependent actually means as far as shutter speed goes. I do know that using a Lux35 the camera chose 1/24 and it was flashing in the viewfinder. I wasn't entirely sure how to overide the chosen speed, normally, if I want to under or over expose I point the camera at a lighter or darker area and lock the speed with a light press on the button. IIRC correctly using the technique I was offered another speed, 1/30 and it too was flashing. If there is an online explanation can you or someone else point me to it, otherwise please enlighten me if you have the time. LouisB Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaapv Posted September 19, 2008 Share #10 Posted September 19, 2008 The manual to the M8-2 is online and it seems to be in there. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
biglouis Posted September 19, 2008 Share #11 Posted September 19, 2008 The manual to the M8-2 is online and it seems to be in there. Yeah.... I tried looking for that at the Leica site but all I could find was the manual for the M8 last night. I'll go back and try again. LouisB Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shootist Posted September 19, 2008 Share #12 Posted September 19, 2008 Lens dependent mean it reads what lens you have mounted, you need coded lenses for this to work, and adjusts the shutter speed to the lowest speed Leica thinks is good to get clear sharp shots. This is usually one speed/stop above the MM of the lens. But since we are dealing with a cropped sensor the speed selected by Leica is 1.5 stops above the reall MM of the lens. So for a 50mm normally you could feel safe shooting at 1/60 but since the M8 turns a 50mm lens into a 67mm lens Leica has chosen to make 1/90 the slowest speed. These perset speeds are just to trigger the raising or lowering of the ISO. You can still get slower speed once the MAX ISO you have set is reached. When that happen the LED's in the viewfinder will flash telling you You have reach the MAX ISO and gone below your low limit shutter speed. this also work when you manually set the low limit. Chris For us dweebs can you explain how it works? I tried it today with minimum speed being lens dependent and max iso set to 640. Firstly, I'm not sure what Lens Dependent actually means as far as shutter speed goes. I do know that using a Lux35 the camera chose 1/24 and it was flashing in the viewfinder. I wasn't entirely sure how to overide the chosen speed, normally, if I want to under or over expose I point the camera at a lighter or darker area and lock the speed with a light press on the button. IIRC correctly using the technique I was offered another speed, 1/30 and it too was flashing. If there is an online explanation can you or someone else point me to it, otherwise please enlighten me if you have the time. LouisB Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
guywalder Posted September 19, 2008 Share #13 Posted September 19, 2008 does Auto ISO use the same 160/320/640 steps as manual selection, or does it change steplessly ala shutter speed, or some other way?? One of my various bugbears has always been the limited iso options, IMHO the files at 640 look significantly different to those at 160 or 320, so I usually feel limited to either 160 or 320. More flexibility would be welcome Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ecaton Posted September 19, 2008 Share #14 Posted September 19, 2008 If set max ISO is reached, shutter speed still goes below the speed limit set. Is there a way of preventing this from happening. Otherwise, a great firmware update, thenk you Leica! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
stunsworth Posted September 19, 2008 Share #15 Posted September 19, 2008 If set max ISO is reached, shutter speed still goes below the speed limit set. Is there a way of preventing this from happening. I don't think so, because if that happened the camera would have to prevent the photograph being taken, and I think most of us would prefer to have something rather than nothing. It would be possible for Leica to change the firmware to stop photographs being taken under the condition you describe, but it would be a negative step IMHO. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rolo Posted September 19, 2008 Share #16 Posted September 19, 2008 Has this auto iso been modeled on the Canon G7, do you think ? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaapv Posted September 19, 2008 Share #17 Posted September 19, 2008 does Auto ISO use the same 160/320/640 steps as manual selection, or does it change steplessly ala shutter speed, or some other way?? One of my various bugbears has always been the limited iso options, IMHO the files at 640 look significantly different to those at 160 or 320, so I usually feel limited to either 160 or 320. More flexibility would be welcome From what I see in steps. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shootist Posted September 19, 2008 Share #18 Posted September 19, 2008 The manual to the M8-2 is online and it seems to be in there. I looked on the US site and the de site and the de EN site and the only manual I've downloaded was the original with no reference to M8.2 anywhere. Where did you see the manual for the M8.2 and if you can find it can you post it somewhere and link to it? Now I didn't read all the manuals I downloaded but I did go to the section when the SET menu is in the book and in each on the User Profiles option is on the top of the SET menu instead of the bottom like it is on REAL M8's and no Auto ISO listing in the normal menu. So this told me that was the original manual (I would figure Leica would of updated the manual so it was correct at least for the M8.2). Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shootist Posted September 19, 2008 Share #19 Posted September 19, 2008 If set max ISO is reached, shutter speed still goes below the speed limit set. Is there a way of preventing this from happening.Otherwise, a great firmware update, thenk you Leica! Not when you are using A mode. But you can set the shutter speed on the dial and it won't go below that. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dpattinson Posted September 19, 2008 Share #20 Posted September 19, 2008 Probably not so useful for me at night in the street, as the glare from streetlamps and headlights usually forces me to set exposure manually anyway. For that I would have liked a ceiling shutterspeed that forced exposure for the 'non lightsource' highlights. Not a big deal, as manual works fine generally anyway. So I was wrong, worked like a charm this evening with min speed set at 1/30 and max ISO set at 2500. Based on my experience today, I'd say auto ISO is almost as big a forward step in 'getting out of the way' as AE was in the M7. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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