Knorp Posted December 1, 2008 Share #1 Posted December 1, 2008 Advertisement (gone after registration) Well the 'Italian Job' was true apparently ... US site Leica Camera AG - Photography - M8 & M8.2 German site Leica Camera AG - Fotografie - M8 & M8.2 All the best. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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gravastar Posted December 1, 2008 Share #2 Posted December 1, 2008 Well the 'Italian Job' was true apparently ... Leica Camera AG - Fotografie - M8 & M8.2 All the best. The english version instructions for upgrading say on page 2 that the changes are: "New function: Detection of 6-bit coding for new M lenses The 6-bit coding and the correction profiles of the new Leica M lenses LEICA SUMMILUX-M 21mm/f1.4 ASPH., LEICA SUMMILUX-M 24mm/f1.4 ASPH. and LEICA ELMAR-M 24mm/f3.8 ASPH. have been implemented. The profile of the lens LEICA NOCTILUX-M 50mm/f0.95 ASPH. will be implemented in a later firmware version before the first shipments will start. "Bug Fixes": a. If LEICA M8.2 cameras are set to the "Discreet" option and to single exposures, an unintended "black image" may have occurred when the finger was not completely lifted from shutter release button before pressing it down again for the next shot. (Not valid for LEICA M8 Cameras) b. Setting "AUTO-ISO" in combination with lens dependent setting of the slowest shutter speed: the camera will switch to the higher ISO when the shutter speed corresponding to "1/focal length" is reached (was 1/focal length + 1 f-stop). c. Correct display of image numbering. d. Correct display of the fastest sync speed in the menu (1/180s on upgraded M8 and M8.2, 1/250s on M8). Notes: a. It is not possible to "downdate" LEICA M8 and M8.2 cameras to previous firmware releases, once the version 2.002 has been installed. b. Saved User Profiles will be deleted during the update process and have to be set again after updating the camera. " What is rather disturbing is on the first page they say not to use an SDHC card. "1. Format an SD memory card (not an SDHC card) in your LEICA M8." Bob. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
stunsworth Posted December 1, 2008 Share #3 Posted December 1, 2008 What is rather disturbing is on the first page they say not to use an SDHC card. Not really disturbing. If you were upgrading from a version of firmware before v2.0 the camera wouldn't recognise an SDHC card.Enough people seem to have problems downloading the updates and putting the correct file on a card for them to try to make things as simple as possible, hence the universal instructions. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaapv Posted December 1, 2008 Share #4 Posted December 1, 2008 It is a pity they did not fix another minor bug, i.e. the camera displaying 999 instead of the correct number of shots when changing SD cards, before the first shot is fired. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nhabedi Posted December 1, 2008 Share #5 Posted December 1, 2008 Not really disturbing. If you were upgrading from a version of firmware before v2.0 the camera wouldn't recognise an SDHC card.Enough people seem to have problems downloading the updates and putting the correct file on a card for them to try to make things as simple as possible, hence the universal instructions. So, can someone actually confirm that the update works with an SDHC card if you already have v2.0? I have an M8.2 (i.e. firmware version is 2.0) and I don't even have an SD card. I don't really want to buy one just for this update... Thanks, Edi. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Knorp Posted December 1, 2008 Author Share #6 Posted December 1, 2008 So, can someone actually confirm that the update works with an SDHC card if you already have v2.0? I have an M8.2 (i.e. firmware version is 2.0) and I don't even have an SD card. I don't really want to buy one just for this update... Thanks, Edi. Hi there, If you've got v2.000 already loaded, it will work with SDHC-cards. So you're fine. Kind regards. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaapv Posted December 1, 2008 Share #7 Posted December 1, 2008 Advertisement (gone after registration) Actually, I have an "Original Leica" SD card which I always use for updates. It came with my Digilux2, has a red dot on it and holds all of 64Mb. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
imported_reinierv Posted December 1, 2008 Share #8 Posted December 1, 2008 I already have 5 2G SD cards...enough to last a lot of shooting, saw upto now no reason to spend money on SDHC cards I actually had a 8G in my hand and then thought "why spend money on something I already have" in 99% of all cases I don't even shoot a 2G card full in a shoot. And in that 1% 99% of all cases swapping the card is no problem. So with the number of shoots I do, it was never a problem Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TimF Posted December 1, 2008 Share #9 Posted December 1, 2008 So, can someone actually confirm that the update works with an SDHC card if you already have v2.0? I have an M8.2 (i.e. firmware version is 2.0) and I don't even have an SD card. I don't really want to buy one just for this update... Thanks, Edi. Yep, as said, it works fine. I upgraded yesterday from the Italian page (and used my SDCHC card without thinking - despite reading the translated instructions!). I think I have a small SD card kicking about someplace - God alone knows what it was bought for, cos I don't remember! - which will be useful if I pick up a used M8 with earlier firmware. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
rdubois Posted December 1, 2008 Share #10 Posted December 1, 2008 Version 2.02 has updated correctly but at the cost of 1 sd card. After the upgrade the numbers had yet again reset to L1000001 so went through the routine of resetting the counter. Somehow during this process the sd card (sandisk extreme 3) was irretrievably corrupted. New card works fine. Now of course it may all be a co-incidence to have a card failure at time of firmware update but does it seem likely? What frustrates me more than anything is that the camera is just back from Solms for an upgrade. They returned the camera last Friday with the counter set to L9990001 and they must have known of the imminent FW update so why in heavens name did they not update the firmware last week when they had the camera. To make things worse they forgot to update the passport with the guaranty extension. Sorry for the rant but perhaps their service department will read this and someone will insist on better and more customer friendly quality control. Dubois Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Olsen Posted December 1, 2008 Share #11 Posted December 1, 2008 Thumbs up! Upgraded! (A bit slow this time). So, now my M8 will recognize the new 24 mm 1,4. Not bad! Where's my wallet...? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
digger1914 Posted December 1, 2008 Share #12 Posted December 1, 2008 Version 2.02 has updated correctly but at the cost of 1 sd card. After the upgrade the numbers had yet again reset to L1000001 so went through the routine of resetting the counter. Dubois I was surprised when my counter reset to 0. This has not happened in my last few upgrades, I am sure. Is it possible to manually set the counter so that I get back to the number I was at? I have looked in the manual but can see nothing. Thanks Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shootist Posted December 1, 2008 Share #13 Posted December 1, 2008 Version 2.02 has updated correctly but at the cost of 1 sd card. After the upgrade the numbers had yet again reset to L1000001 so went through the routine of resetting the counter. Somehow during this process the sd card (sandisk extreme 3) was irretrievably corrupted. New card works fine. Now of course it may all be a co-incidence to have a card failure at time of firmware update but does it seem likely? Dubois Simple fix to having the numbers reset when you do a firmware upgrade. Take a card and take a shot. Take that card out and use another card to do the FW update. After the FW update is done and you have turned the camera off take the card out you use to do the update and insert the one you just took one image with. Turn the camera on and VIEW/PLAY that one image on the cameras LCD screen. Hit the info button to view the number on that image. Take one more shot, hit the play then the info button to view the number of the new image you just took (it shouyld be the next number after the one that was on the card), format the card in the camera. Your numbering well continue from that number on. This can happen anytime. Say I had a card I hadn't used in several months and it had images left on it and the last image was numbered L1004678 and the camera was now recording images in the L1008xxx range. If I stuck that card in the camera and VIEWED the images on that card the camera would remember the last image number taken on that card and start numbering images from that last image number. That is why it is so important to FORMAT cards as soon as you put them in the camera. It has been said many time. There are more counterfeit SanDisk cards then there is tea in china. More then likely the card that got corrupted was counterfeit and was about to die anyway. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shootist Posted December 1, 2008 Share #14 Posted December 1, 2008 I was surprised when my counter reset to 0. This has not happened in my last few upgrades, I am sure. Is it possible to manually set the counter so that I get back to the number I was at? I have looked in the manual but can see nothing. Thanks Do a search for posts by me, Shootist. I have posted the procedure to reset the numbering many times. In fact if you have another card with images on it you can just follow the steps in my last post to this thread and the numbers will continue from the last shot on that other card. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Photon42 Posted December 1, 2008 Share #15 Posted December 1, 2008 And of course after the update, all the settings are gone. That seem to be quite difficult to achieve Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
rdubois Posted December 1, 2008 Share #16 Posted December 1, 2008 shootist wrote It has been said many time. There are more counterfeit SanDisk cards then there is tea in china. More then likely the card that got corrupted was counterfeit and was about to die anyway. These cards are unlikely to be counterfeit having been purchased from a reputable London (Leica) dealer. Furthermore the card in question had been used over the past year without problems. I repeat that it seems far fetched to assume that the card was about to die at the very time of a firmware update. Nonetheless: I appreciate your clear directions for future updates and thank you but: 1. Why is Leica not supplying this information in their manual or on their website 2. Why are they sending upgraded cameras back (just 2 days ago!) with an old firmware when specifically they note on the order acknowledgement that FW will be updated 3. I have been photographing digitally for many years and have never until today had a card failure 4. Good customer relations would suggest that a recently returned Leica serviced camera would not be randomly renumbered. If it had been L000-0001 I could have understood but L999-0001 with, incidentally also renumbered subdirectory to 999LEICA Twice in the last year my camera has been back for repair or upgrade. Twice I have been less than impressed with their quality control. Dubois Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shootist Posted December 1, 2008 Share #17 Posted December 1, 2008 And of course after the update, all the settings are gone. That seem to be quite difficult to achieve I think the reason for this is the V2.x FW is a total rewrite of the FW and changes certain things, like SDHC support, faster formatting, Auto ISO, and the places that stored all your old settings are not compatible with the new FW. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shootist Posted December 1, 2008 Share #18 Posted December 1, 2008 These cards are unlikely to be counterfeit having been purchased from a reputable London (Leica) dealer. Furthermore the card in question had been used over the past year without problems. I repeat that it seems far fetched to assume that the card was about to die at the very time of a firmware update. Nonetheless: I appreciate your clear directions for future updates and thank you but: 1. Why is Leica not supplying this information in their manual or on their website 2. Why are they sending upgraded cameras back (just 2 days ago!) with an old firmware when specifically they note on the order acknowledgement that FW will be updated 3. I have been photographing digitally for many years and have never until today had a card failure 4. Good customer relations would suggest that a recently returned Leica serviced camera would not be randomly renumbered. If it had been L000-0001 I could have understood but L999-0001 with, incidentally also renumbered subdirectory to 999LEICA Twice in the last year my camera has been back for repair or upgrade. Twice I have been less than impressed with their quality control. Dubois As to your # 4 question. I think the person that did your upgrade/service/whatever is using a card that is set to the L999 number. Like I said in my above post if you stick in a card that has a different numbering sequence then what you have the camera set to and VIEW a image from that card the camera will start recording images numbered after the last image on that card. In the process of checking your camera he used a card that started numbering at L9990001 and whn he was done never bothered to RESET the camera. Everytime I have sent in a camera for service, and that has been quite a few times, it has always come back with the numbering reset to L1000001. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Knorp Posted December 1, 2008 Author Share #19 Posted December 1, 2008 Had the same renumbering issue after the upgrade . Solved it by copying my highest numbered picture to the card. Then pressed play, info, took a shot, checked the new highest number, formatted the card, numbering is ok now. But I've quite a few shots now starting from L1010000 ... . Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jvan01 Posted December 2, 2008 Share #20 Posted December 2, 2008 Has anyone else noticed improved Auto White Balance in this firmware upgrade coming from the 2.0 firmware? Or am I just imagining it? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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