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Old 11/18/07, 07:38 AM   23 links from elsewhere to this Post. Click to view. #1 (permalink)
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Default Summarit Series 35,50,90 Ugly Test

Well many folks run tests under ideal conditions. not my thing. I want to know when it is the worst it can possible be what my lenses will do under these conditions. So in that light this is strictly a Bokeh, Contrast , Saturation and Highlight test under the strongest ugliest light, deepest shadows and ugly background . In short The UGLY test. The only thing nice about it is my daughter Cali trying to keep her poor eyes open in the one of the brightest parts in the world, other than that these are conditions that you want to avoid at all costs but can't. Now let me point out what this test is NOT, it is not a sharpest , resolution test. You simply can't do that with a moving target so with that some will look sharper and some will not either due to her moving or dad not nailing the focusing. I would like to blame her because i am damn good at focusing but i even missed here. Tough conditions for sure. that sharpness test will come later plus i have another battery of test to do next week in much better light and conditions. i will call that one the pretty test. LOL

But the UGLY test comes first and it is pretty interesting to see what lens hold the contrast has the better saturation and can handle the highlights on here skin. This is bright stuff and many of you may not see the conditions like this.

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35 summarit Vs 35mm F2 Cron version IV
50 summarit Vs 50mm 1.4 Lux ASPH
90 Summarit Vs 90 mm F2 Cron Apo

All shot at ISO 160 , camera set to daylight on A mode . BTW the meter was dead on. Also no chance of flair had umbrella over the setup. processed in LR . NO White Balance . I want to see the color of the lens and what it outputs. WB just makes it right, i want to see what is off that sensor not what LR does . Also turned ALL sharpening off. No adjustments to fill, recovery, shadow or highlights. I can work magic with these controls but for testing all of it is off. So bottom line it is ugly as it should be and down to the basic element as I can get, the lens.

Please wait until i finish loading all this up , it will take some time and i will let you know when i am done . This way it stays in order. Thanks Guy

Remember this is NOT a sharpness test. I missed, that will come without a moving object.

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Old 11/18/07, 07:40 AM   #2 (permalink)
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First lets just post the 35mm Cron Version IV wide open at f2
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Cron first at f2.5 than Summarrit at 2.5
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35mm cron at 2.8 than 35mm summarit at 2.8
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35mm cron at F4 than 35mm Summarit at F4
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35 cron at 5.6 and 35 summarit at 5.6
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35mm cron at F8 than 35mm Summarit at F8
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Couple casual observations the Crons holds the shadows better and the bokeh is different than the Summarits . But the Summarits seem to hold the highlights better in the 35mm dept. Now a lot of this can be worked in the raw processing no doubt but this is your base file to work with

Let's move on to the 50mm

I really felt bad for Cali the sun was killing her here
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Moving on to the 50mm bracket . Lets put the 50 lux at 1.4 and F2 up in this section just for refernce because obviously the Summarit is 2.5

Now I think this is were i missed focus and hit her hair on the left , still the data we need is here and that is what counts
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50 lux at F2.5 and 50 summarit at 2.5. Sorry folks this is a long test
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50 lux at 2.8 and 50 sum at 2.8
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50 lux at 4 and 50 sum at 4
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50 lux at 5.6 and 50 sum at 5.6
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Let's skip the F8 on the 50's and move on to the 90mm lens test.

Personally no chance i could not have the speed of the Lux but for the money difference well that is another story. i am impressed so far with the 50 performance and the 35 also

Okay we will put up the 90 apo cron at F2
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90 cron F2.5 than 90 sum at 2.5
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90 cron F2.8 than 90 sum at 2.8
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90 cron F4 than 90 sum at F4
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90 cron F5.6 than 90 sum at F5.6
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Okay that is it for the test but just to show you how much you can get out of a situation like this, you can really work magic with raw processing and in reality all your images would look similar to this than what the test itself showed. there is a ton of elbow room with the M8 and all of these lenses are really damn good.

Just took a minute to make one look more normal. This was a 35 summarrit from the test

Thanks for your patience and time , Hopefully this will help you a little more. More testing to come
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Also a round of applause for my daughters help and i feel i should show her in a better light so i shot this in the open shade with the 75 Lux at 1.4
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