amurt Posted September 20, 2010 Share #1 Posted September 20, 2010 Advertisement (gone after registration) Why is this so expensive? Worth it? The Photo Village :: Cameras & Photo Gear :: Digital & 35mm Film Cameras :: 35mm Film Cameras :: 35mm Systems (by Brand) :: Leica 35mm System :: M Series :: Cameras & Accessories :: Cameras :: Leica MP3 Set with Leicavit and 50mm f/1.4 ASPH Lens -- S Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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aymoon Posted September 20, 2010 Share #2 Posted September 20, 2010 (edited) Why is this so expensive? Worth it? According to my local dealer (and probably nicked from a Leica press release): It was in 1956 that the first LEICA MP was made, in a very limited run of just 400 units. Today prices of up to 94,000 Euros are paid for them. With an exclusive anniversary edition, the world's largest group of Leica enthusiasts is commemorating the legendary MP. The LHSA Special Edition combines the classic design of the earlier MP with the precision and durability of the latest production LEICA MP in the series. The limited edition 1,000 unit production run includes 500 black lacquered and 500 silver chrome-plated models. 375 LHSA sets are also offered, consisting of the camera, lens with lens hood and metal cap, Leicavit, leather carrying strap and case. There are also a further 125 LHSA Special Edition single items available: the camera with case; the LEICA SUMMILUX-M 50 mm f/1.4 ASPH. lens with leather case, and the engraved LEICAVIT MP with case.Truly exclusive The look of the LHSA Special Edition is true to the original 1956 LEICA MP - including the frames around the viewfinder window, for example, and the historic carrying strap eyelets. The texture of the leather trim is also in line with the classic vulcanite finish. Perfect in every detail Just like it was back then: the classic bright line frame set for 35, 50 and 90 mm lenses, corresponding to the full negative format of 24 x 36 mm, the external frame counter, shutter speed dial, image field selector, and rewind release lever all correspond to those of the original MP. I personally would love one of these, and would probably buy one if I was rich. BUT, I am not a collector and would want to use it properly, and I am not rich; therefore an MP is as far as I would dream. Having said that, you do get the Leicavit and the 50 lux, which if you were to buy separately with an MP would push the cost up considerably. So if you wanted this combination, it could be a really good investment. Edited September 20, 2010 by aymoon Having said that... Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ddp Posted September 20, 2010 Share #3 Posted September 20, 2010 It's a limited edition kit - in whole, which are harder to come by these days. The 50/1.4 asph is extremely difficult to find in any variation right now - new or used and the new ones run over $3500. If I recall, many people broke up the kits to sell the lenses or bodies depending on demand. I have always thought the MP3 was very well built, and great looking to boot. Only 3 framelines - 35-50-90, a very uncluttered viewfinder overall. Great to use. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Riccis Posted September 20, 2010 Share #4 Posted September 20, 2010 Why is this so expensive? Worth it? The Photo Village :: Cameras & Photo Gear :: Digital & 35mm Film Cameras :: 35mm Film Cameras :: 35mm Systems (by Brand) :: Leica 35mm System :: M Series :: Cameras & Accessories :: Cameras :: Leica MP3 Set with Leicavit and 50mm f/1.4 ASPH Lens -- S No! Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
aymoon Posted September 20, 2010 Share #5 Posted September 20, 2010 According to B&H Photo: MP: $4595 50mm 1.4: $3695 (old model pictured) Leicavit: $1095 Total: $9385 Plus, it's a collectors item. It's definitely worth it to someone. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest dk_samurai Posted September 20, 2010 Share #6 Posted September 20, 2010 ...50mm 1.4: $3695 (old model pictured)... Old model?? The lens that goes with the MP3 kit is in fact the new aspherical version of the 50mm summilux. The outer cosmetics have simply been changed to look classical. Plus the lens barrel is made of brass and filter size is 43mm. Best, David Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
aymoon Posted September 20, 2010 Share #7 Posted September 20, 2010 Advertisement (gone after registration) Yeah, but the lens pictured on the b&h website is the older one, that's what i meant. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
fingerprinz Posted September 20, 2010 Share #8 Posted September 20, 2010 @aymoon: No, it's the latest ASPH Summilux, but on the exterior build like the original Summilux when the first MP came out. It's a tribut to the original MP and the Summilux, but with today's technology. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Riccis Posted September 20, 2010 Share #9 Posted September 20, 2010 One thing to keep in mind is that this is a user set (look at the detailed images) and if you are looking for a mint copy, this is not it. Cheers, Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bill Posted September 20, 2010 Share #10 Posted September 20, 2010 You could get an .85 MP4... Regards, Bill Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ezc203 Posted September 20, 2010 Share #11 Posted September 20, 2010 I've had my eye on a Blackpaint MP3 for a while now. If i can muster up the $4500, I would buy it in a heart beat. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
aymoon Posted September 20, 2010 Share #12 Posted September 20, 2010 @aymoon: No, it's the latest ASPH Summilux, but on the exterior build like the original Summilux when the first MP came out. It's a tribut to the original MP and the Summilux, but with today's technology. The picture next to the 50 lux being sold alone on b&h is the old one. Old - Leica 50mm f/1.4 Summilux M Aspherical Manual Focus Lens 11891 - New - Red Dot Cameras - Leica Cameras, Leica Binoculars, Metz Flashguns, Manfrotto Tripods, Leitz The MP3 lens is based on the new one, but with a different exterior. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
aesop Posted September 20, 2010 Share #13 Posted September 20, 2010 ...sounds like we've got a bit of confusion here. I agree with aymoon's assertion that the relevant B&H image is outdated. The B&H pages for the Leica 50mm 1.4 Summilux ASPH (black and chrome) currently display incorrect images, namely, the final version of the 50/1.4 Summilux pre-asph (cat. #s 11628 and 11856). The actual items are correctly listed as catalogue numbers 11891 and 11892, but the images are currently incorrect. For correct imagery of the current 50/1.4 Summilux ASPH, click here. To clarify further - fingerprinz, the "scalloped design" 50/1.4 (LHSA Edition) lens you allude to was sold as a set with the LHSA MP3+Leicavit, but was also available individually in very limited numbers. Internally, it is the same design as the 50/1.4 ASPH. I do not believe this lens is listed on the B&H website and cannot recall the exact quantities produced by Leica. Catalogue numbers for the LHSA special edition MP3+50/1.4+Leicavit are as follows: 10318 - MP3-SET LHSA+50/1.4 (black paint) 10319 - MP3-SET LHSA+50.1.4 (chrome) 10320 - MP3 LHSA (black paint) 10321 - MP3 LHSA (chrome) 11627 - 50/1.4 LHSA (black) 11628 - 50/1.4 LHSA (chrome) 14460 - Leicavit M LHSA (black) 14461 - Leicavit M LHSA (chrome) Hope this helps. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
amurt Posted September 21, 2010 Author Share #14 Posted September 21, 2010 It's a user but still seems like a good option for those looking to get an MP and 50 lux asph today? I'd rather have a black paint set anyway - anyone seen one of those? 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
peter_n Posted September 21, 2010 Share #15 Posted September 21, 2010 The MP3 is essentially a gussied up MP. I think collectors bought most of them but a small number of members here use theirs. Apart from a few exterior differences it's just a regular MP and the most useful difference is the solitary framelines. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ddp Posted September 21, 2010 Share #16 Posted September 21, 2010 (edited) This is what the black paint version looks like, sans the 50/1.4. My opinion - the build quality on this is a little different than the standard MP or M7. Closer to my 1966 M3. Not a bad thing. Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Edited September 21, 2010 by ddp 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/131817-mp3/?do=findComment&comment=1446396'>More sharing options...
aesop Posted September 21, 2010 Share #17 Posted September 21, 2010 This is what the black paint version looks like, sans the 50/1.4. My opinion - the build quality oin this is a little different than the standard MP or M7. Closer to my 1966 M3. Not a bad thing. ...sorry to disappoint you, ddp - MP/MP3 differences are purely aesthetic. Still, no matter. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ddp Posted September 21, 2010 Share #18 Posted September 21, 2010 ...sorry to disappoint you, ddp - MP/MP3 differences are purely aesthetic. Still, no matter. Please note - I said my opinion...I am simply speaking as someone who owned two MP's previously to the MP3 and feel that the transport is a little smoother. It's subtle. I sold an M7 due to it's height. Perhaps I am little off the deep end though! Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
aesop Posted September 21, 2010 Share #19 Posted September 21, 2010 Please note - I said my opinion...I am simply speaking as someone who owned two MP's previously to the MP3 and feel that the transport is a little smoother. It's subtle. I sold an M7 due to it's height. Perhaps I am little off the deep end though! ...point taken, ddp. Your opinion is your opinion. And the innards of both cameras are the same. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
aymoon Posted September 21, 2010 Share #20 Posted September 21, 2010 Well, I think the MP3 looks gorgeous, but I'll be buying a regular black MP instead as I don't want/need a Leicavit, and I've already got the new 50 lux reserved. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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