Guest WPalank Posted October 12, 2009 Share #1 Posted October 12, 2009 Advertisement (gone after registration) This is somewhat of a reiteration of a post I made on a thread in the M9 cubicle. A new member reminded me of the X-rite Colorchecker Passport system: X-Rite: Get exactly the color you need, every time, anywhere in the world. One of its features is the ability to create an automated custom profile in Lightroom using the software. As an owner of the original Classic Colorchecker chart I did a little digging on the website and found that the Classic chart is compatible with the software. The good news is that the download is free as long as you are registered on the X-rite site. X-Rite: Get exactly the color you need, every time, anywhere in the world. The download includes a standalone application as well as the LR plug-in. You'll have to do a little hunting on the site to learn how to use it as the download doesn't include any directions. What do you expect for free? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Advertisement Posted October 12, 2009 Posted October 12, 2009 Hi Guest WPalank, Take a look here Custom DNG Profile for Lightroom. I'm sure you'll find what you were looking for!
Shootist Posted October 13, 2009 Share #2 Posted October 13, 2009 I've downloaded it and installed it but it would be nice if you posted a link to the directions. I have looked on the X-Rite site and didn't find anything like direction for the program. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest WPalank Posted October 13, 2009 Share #3 Posted October 13, 2009 Go to the initial page I posted and in the video on the right, fast forward to the 2:57 mark. Also, here's an archived webinar: X-Rite: Get exactly the color you need, every time, anywhere in the world. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnbuckley Posted October 17, 2009 Share #4 Posted October 17, 2009 On the M9 Forum, I recently asked about camera calibration, because I've been unhappy with the embedded profile for the M9 in Lightroom. (Which is to say, no profile.) I was nicely steered toward exactly this solution: the X-Rite Color Checker Passport. It cost me $99 dollars, took three days to arrive, and all in, I've now invested maybe an hour watching various videos. All I can say is "Wow." It's raining where I live, so I haven't created profiles outdoors, but creating a Tungston profile based on a calibration in my house makes me think that the exact colors in my kitchen were captured by my M9 and are now in Lightroom. Thank you for the recommendation. I highly recommend this. JB Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mauribix Posted October 21, 2009 Share #5 Posted October 21, 2009 Willliam, this sounds cool! Just what I was looking for as the M9 still needs some good profiles. Did you already make some profiles? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
adan Posted October 22, 2009 Share #6 Posted October 22, 2009 Does Lightroom have a Calibration pane in its controls? Like Adobe Camera Raw? If so, I can provide the M9 settings I've calibrated in ACR from a ColorChecker for far less than $99 (i.e., free) and someone with Lightroom can try them to see how they work. If LR works like ACR, it should mean just setting 7 numbers on sliders and saving those settings - then the profile is just 1 click away. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marty Posted October 22, 2009 Share #7 Posted October 22, 2009 Advertisement (gone after registration) Calibration in LR is the bottom pane in the development module. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mauribix Posted October 22, 2009 Share #8 Posted October 22, 2009 Does Lightroom have a Calibration pane in its controls? Like Adobe Camera Raw? If so, I can provide the M9 settings I've calibrated in ACR from a ColorChecker for far less than $99 (i.e., free) and someone with Lightroom can try them to see how they work. Andy, I'm here to test... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest WPalank Posted October 22, 2009 Share #9 Posted October 22, 2009 Willliam, this sounds cool! Just what I was looking for as the M9 still needs some good profiles.Did you already make some profiles? Maurizio, I haven't because I don't have a M9 yet. I've been meaning to try it with the M8, but the weathers been a bit dodgy here since I downloaded. Again, the software is free from the X-rite site, so if you already have a Colorchecker (I do), you're in like Flynn. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mauribix Posted October 22, 2009 Share #10 Posted October 22, 2009 Maurizio,I haven't because I don't have a M9 yet. I've been meaning to try it with the M8, but the weathers been a bit dodgy here since I downloaded. Again, the software is free from the X-rite site, so if you already have a Colorchecker (I do), you're in like Flynn. Bill, Thank you, I downloaded the software earlier this morning... still can't find the Colorchecker (uff, what a mess my house is now! ). Meanwhile I'm playin' with the new Lightroom Beta 3... cool! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
adan Posted October 22, 2009 Share #11 Posted October 22, 2009 OK, this is my "beta" profile for the M9 in ACR(Lightroom?) Shadow tint: -1 (Optional - 0) Red Primary Hue: +10 Sat: -5 Green Primary Hue: -24 Sat: +18 Blue Primary Hue: +5 Sat: -40 You can then save that as a Develop Preset (Save only the calibration, un-check all the other parameters). And then apply it to images one at a time for experimentation. Personally, I've already made it my default - ACR applies it to all my M9 pix automatically. But you won't want to do that until you are sure it works for you. This is a FULL SPECTRUM profile - you'll likely still get pink reds in pix shot under tungsten or other yellow light (once white balanced). A tungsten profile is on my to-do list. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest WPalank Posted October 22, 2009 Share #12 Posted October 22, 2009 I went ahead and did a little test with my M8. I photographed a colorchecker card in bright daylight in my garden and captured a couple of images there as well. Image 1 is the card. Image 2 is the Adobe Standard Profile. Image 3 is the profiled image using the Passport software. Image 4 is the profiled image using the Manual DNG editor from Adobe Colochecker Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Adobe Standard Profile M8 Passport Profile M8 Manual DNG editor I feel the results showed that both the Passport System and the Adobe DNG editor made significant improvements over the Adobe Standard Profile. With the colors in this specific image, both the Passport and manual DNG editor were about the same. There is some difference in the yellows. This being my first time with both systems, the Passport wins in my eyes because it is so simple to use and creates and loads the profile in a matter of seconds. The DNG editor provided by Adobe works well but took me about 4-5 minutes to create and then save the profile. The Passport system saves the profile automatically. You have to close and then reopen LR in both systems in order to use the newly created profiles. Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Adobe Standard Profile M8 Passport Profile M8 Manual DNG editor I feel the results showed that both the Passport System and the Adobe DNG editor made significant improvements over the Adobe Standard Profile. With the colors in this specific image, both the Passport and manual DNG editor were about the same. There is some difference in the yellows. This being my first time with both systems, the Passport wins in my eyes because it is so simple to use and creates and loads the profile in a matter of seconds. The DNG editor provided by Adobe works well but took me about 4-5 minutes to create and then save the profile. The Passport system saves the profile automatically. You have to close and then reopen LR in both systems in order to use the newly created profiles. ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/99997-custom-dng-profile-for-lightroom/?do=findComment&comment=1085863'>More sharing options...
Mauribix Posted October 22, 2009 Share #13 Posted October 22, 2009 So come on guys, this is what I came to determine for better skin tones with the M9... Slight differences may occur depending on the lens used (for instance these settings are completely off with the Noctilux f/1.0, I'm still working on it:rolleyes:) (Settings for Lightroom ACR) in the HSL panel: RED SATURATION: -15 RED HUE: nul ORANGE SATURATION: -15 ORANGE HUE: nul YELLOW SATURATION: -25 YELLOW HUE: -40 Here is the sample: 1)first is Lightroom default with ADOBE standard profile 2)second is Lightroom setted as I wrote above with ADOBE standard profile 3)third is Lightroom default with M9 embedded profile 4)fourth is Lightroom setted as I wrote above with M9embedded profile Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/99997-custom-dng-profile-for-lightroom/?do=findComment&comment=1085950'>More sharing options...
Guest WPalank Posted October 22, 2009 Share #14 Posted October 22, 2009 Maurizio, Can you define "embedded" profile. I thought there was no Profile yet created by Adobe. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mauribix Posted October 22, 2009 Share #15 Posted October 22, 2009 I'm sorry William, given the fact that I always used that profile since my M9 day 1, I called it "embedded"... Actually that's not embedded into LR, but it's available for download as Thorsten too pointed out in another thread that actually I can't recall. anyway: ChromaSoft - Reference Images (there's a profile for the M8 too and both seems to work nicely). Let me know. Maurizio Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
hoppyman Posted October 22, 2009 Share #16 Posted October 22, 2009 For the purposes of this thread,"embedded" is what you get if there is no specific Adobe profile for the camera as yet. I expect that we will get some from Adobe soon. I recommend that you download and install the excellent M9 profile provided by Sandy here. On my very limited play thus far it gives excellent results. Appreciably different and better renderings of both saturated colurs and skin tones with the few frames that I have shot. Once installed you will see the option to select 'embedded' or the custom profile. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
adan Posted October 23, 2009 Share #17 Posted October 23, 2009 Just a picture version of what hoppyman said (from Adobe Camera Raw) - the "embedded" profile is what is available "embedded" in the .DNG metadata, presumably by Leica and Jenoptik in their wisdom. Once Adobe issues a new version of ACR (5.6 is due next) that has an M9 profile, "embedded" will change in that tab to "ACR 5.(whatever)" to show ACR is using its own profile instead of the embedded profile. Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/99997-custom-dng-profile-for-lightroom/?do=findComment&comment=1087350'>More sharing options...
novice9 Posted October 25, 2009 Share #18 Posted October 25, 2009 I recommend that you download and install the excellent M9 profile provided by Sandy here. I tried to do this myself and can't seem to figure it out. I went to sandy's website and located what i believed was the m9 profile, the third m9 file he lists with the .dcp fie extension. I can't seem to figure out how to load it into Light Room. Any guidance would be much appreciated. Thanks, tony. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
hoppyman Posted October 25, 2009 Share #19 Posted October 25, 2009 Tony you just need to manually copy Sandy's provided file to your computer and then you will see the new profile offered as an option when you next open an M9 file. You should see the option to use "embedded' or M9 digitalcamera 18 Sep 09 in the camera calibration menu of the develop module. Don't forget that LR and Adobe Camera Raw too only shows you profiles for the particular camera type when you open the DNG. That is you see a different set for different camera models. Here are the default file locations (quoted here from Thorsten's excellent review to save me going back to my book and typing them out for you) On Mac OS X: /Library/Application Support/Adobe/CameraRaw/CameraProfiles On Windows 2000 / XP: C:\DocumentsandSettings\AllUsers\ApplicationData\Adobe\CameraRaw\CameraProfiles On Windows Vista: C:\ProgramData\Adobe\CameraRaw\CameraProfiles Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest WPalank Posted October 25, 2009 Share #20 Posted October 25, 2009 ... but if you have access to a Colorchecker card (maybe borrow a friends), why not make your own profile that is custom to YOUR specific sensor rather obtain a profile that is custom to someone else's? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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