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Summicron 50 vs Nokton 1.1/50


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Reiner,

 

those two lenses are completely different from each other, and thus are very hard, if not impossible to compare. Different size, different weight, different performance wide open, different bokeh. Give the Nokton a try if you want, but don't sell your Summicron before you really know whether you like the Nokton better.

 

Andy

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Hi, I have the Summicron 50 last version and I am thinking about if it is worth to sustitute it by the Nokton 1.1/50. What do you think?

 

I don't have 1st hand experience on either, but I think they'd complement each other nicely. Other is small and good close up, other is fast. A collapsible 2.8 or 3.5 would be even smaller, but they don't focus as close as a Summicron.

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Having owned both, sold them both and in the end I've kept my Elmar 50/2.8 and CV 50/1.5. In truth the reason why I kept the CV 50/1.5 over the 1.1 is that there was insufficient differences between the two for my type of shooting. I do know that film and b&w users are very happy with the CV 50 1.1. It all comes down down to what you want from a lens. Incidentally, the 1.1 is far better built imho than the 50/1.5.

 

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Sean has not yet reviewed the Nokton 50 f1.1. When I asked him if he would, I believe I remember his saying that he does plan to.

I have both the Leica 50 and the Nokton 50 f1.1. I would not sell either. They complement eachother well and also go out on different projects for different purposes.

I am most postive about the Nokton 50 f1.1. In my opinion, it is better than the Noctilux 50 f1.0 that I sold. It is sharper wide-open and has better bokeh -- 3-dimentional and well sculpted out-of-focus imagery, rather than harsh, broken lines (that many Leica ASPH lenses have, which I've noticed in published Noct .95 pictures too).

Unfortunately, like the old Noct, the Nokton does have focus-shift. If you use this lens on an M8 or M9, you will have to focus compensate or focus bracket after f1.1. If you use film cameras, no compensation may be necessary because of the relatively wide thickness of film. I use the Nokton on an M8, nevertheless, it has become my favorite lens. It isolates the subject sharply and at the same time creates a beautiful out-of-focus imagery around the subject. I'd still use the Leica 50 for stopped-down landscapes with objects from foreground to background, as the Nokton is diffraction limited by f5.6 or so -- in my experience. In general, I prefer Leica to CV. The Nokton 50 f1.1 is an exception.

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Sean has not yet reviewed the Nokton 50 f1.1. When I asked him if he would, I believe I remember his saying that he does plan to.

 

Oops! Thanks for the clarification. I read the original post quickly, and thought the OP asked about the 50 1.5.

 

If the OP doesn't subscribe to Sean's site, I still think it's worthwhile. But, I appreciate your correcting my error on this particular lens question.

 

Jeff

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  • 1 month later...

I bought a Nocton 1.1 with the intention of selling my summarit 50 f2.5 but I'm keeping both...they are so very different and both great at what they do.....just because the angle of view is the same doesn't mean the results are similar

 

btw, love the summarits, why so overlooked? will undoubtedly add the 35 when funds allow.

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