BRJR Posted October 7, 2009 Share #41 Posted October 7, 2009 Advertisement (gone after registration) I now have an M9; but, will be keeping my M8.2, as well. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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markgay Posted October 7, 2009 Share #42 Posted October 7, 2009 M9 is 6,500 euro in Moscow. At that rate I may sell the M8 (at an equally inflated price) to pay for it. If I buy the M9 in UK, I'll keep the M8, most likely. Could always offload a lens or too but that makes less sense. M Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
misha Posted October 8, 2009 Share #43 Posted October 8, 2009 I am keeping my M8 but am a bit mystified as to what to do with my IR filters from the M8. I obviously need them but to keep putting them on lens when I use M8 as opposed to M9. Seems fiddly. Any bright ideas? have dedicated m8 & m9 lenses. for example, when i get the m9, i plan to permanently use m9&35/2 and m8&75/2 without really ever changing lenses. that said, i get attached to lenses not boxes and may end up selling m8 after all. cheers misha PHOTOGRAPHY BY MISHA FRIEDMAN Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest EarlBurrellPhoto Posted October 8, 2009 Share #44 Posted October 8, 2009 M9 is 6,500 euro in Moscow. At that rate I may sell the M8 (at an equally inflated price) to pay for it. If I buy the M9 in UK, I'll keep the M8, most likely. Could always offload a lens or too but that makes less sense. M Errr, why not sell the M8 in Moscow and buy the M9 in the UK (or from HK)? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
misha Posted October 8, 2009 Share #45 Posted October 8, 2009 Errr, why not sell the M8 in Moscow and buy the M9 in the UK (or from HK)? that would not be very russian ) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
michali Posted October 8, 2009 Share #46 Posted October 8, 2009 I spent the past week sailing in a classic yacht regatta and used my M8.2 as a back up to the M9. The first decision was what to do about swopping lenses between the 2 cameras and therefore what to do about IR filters. I decided to present as much as possble in B&W and where colour was necessary to make a point of shooting with the M9, so no IR filters on either of the cameras. The other thing that I found about using the M8.2 & M9 in tandem is the havoc it plays in getting your head around the difference in the frame lines when swopping one camera for the other in fast shooting situations.So IMO using the 2 cameras in tandem is great in theory, however it's not really practical in the heat of the moment, especially in fast shooting situations. I still love my M8.2, however I took a decision in the middle of all of this to go for a 2nd M9 body and offload the M8.2 (I've sadly just offloaded my M8, three bodies is over kill). Bearing all of this in mind, the more I use the M9 it's very clear to me why Leica dicontinued the M8, a decision many in this Forum questioned. The M8 is still a great camera IMO. However based on my experience this past week it's not as easy as it sounds to use the M8 & M9 in tandem in fast shooting situations, it probably works better in a more sedate shooting environment. __________________ Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rolo Posted October 8, 2009 Share #47 Posted October 8, 2009 Advertisement (gone after registration) Any comment of file noise. At 640 iso the M8 and M9 files will be different with respect to noise and I suspect this would be more obvious as the print size expands. So, side by side would an 18x12" print from each look any different ? At 1250 iso, I presume the difference would be very significant. Your thoughts ? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest EarlBurrellPhoto Posted October 8, 2009 Share #48 Posted October 8, 2009 The first decision was what to do about swopping lenses between the 2 cameras and therefore what to do about IR filters. I decided to present as much as possble in B&W and where colour was necessary to make a point of shooting with the M9, so no IR filters on either of the cameras. The other thing that I found about using the M8.2 & M9 in tandem is the havoc it plays in getting your head around the difference in the frame lines when swopping one camera for the other in fast shooting situations. The residual, uncorrected IR contamination in the M9 is a deal-breaker for me until Leica updates firmware to correct for cyan drift if IR filters are used. Once that is done, if it is (and I suspect it may not be, if enough people like yourself are ok to dump their M8s at horrendous loss for a second M9) then that would be a non-issue shooting the two models together. As to the framelines, I suppose different people have different difficulty getting their head around the framelines. I don't see what the issue is unless you're swapping the same lens to and fro between M8 and M9 in fast shooting, and I don't understand why anyone would be doing that. Typically shooting 2 M8s simultaneously people tend to have different focal lengths on each. In the days of film sometimes we would keep different ISOs in one, or colour in one and b/w in the other, but that's utter nonsense with digital. It would not be hard for me to remember I have a 35mm on the M9 and a 100mm (75mm lens) on the M8. In fact if I had 35mm lenses on both bodies it would be child's play to remember one is 35mm FOV and the other 47mm (roughly a 50). Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
chris_tribble Posted October 8, 2009 Share #49 Posted October 8, 2009 Any comment of file noise. At 640 iso the M8 and M9 files will be different with respect to noise and I suspect this would be more obvious as the print size expands. So, side by side would an 18x12" print from each look any different ? At 1250 iso, I presume the difference would be very significant. Your thoughts ? Rolo - lots of detail in this and I've not made enough prints. However - the two examples at 640 below might help. The China shot was M8. The kid's art work M9. The residual, uncorrected IR contamination in the M9 is a deal-breaker for me until Leica updates firmware to correct for cyan drift if IR filters are used. Once that is done, if it is (and I suspect it may not be, if enough people like yourself are ok to dump their M8s at horrendous loss for a second M9) then that would be a non-issue shooting the two models together. Ed - I'm doing paid work with the M9 now. I really don't see residual IR as an issue. NOT a deal breaker really... I may claw back a few IR filters as a just in case for black tie - but doing the kind of LowePro nylon test that others have done and comparing Canon 5D2 and M9, IR really isn't an issue. Best Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/98639-buying-m9-and-keeping-m8/?do=findComment&comment=1067508'>More sharing options...
Guest EarlBurrellPhoto Posted October 9, 2009 Share #50 Posted October 9, 2009 Ed - I'm doing paid work with the M9 now. I really don't see residual IR as an issue. NOT a deal breaker really... I may claw back a few IR filters as a just in case for black tie - but doing the kind of LowePro nylon test that others have done and comparing Canon 5D2 and M9, IR really isn't an issue. Best Lord knows I don't relish carting round those bulbous Canon bodies and their equally bulbous lenses. Unfortunately a couple of my colleagues who shoot for some of the same people I do have already had to re-shoot a couple things with their Canons because their M9s had IR issues that couldn't be worked out in post without altering other colours unacceptably. If my clients and photo editors were a little less discerning I'd have an M9 on order right now. In fact I already told one of those guys who had issues with the M9 that if he's of a mind to sell it for US$5000 I'll write him a cheque, and he said quite earnestly that he'll think seriously about it. I'd be fine buying it for that price for personal use. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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