ho_co Posted September 17, 2009 Share #81 Posted September 17, 2009 Advertisement (gone after registration) Kent--Interesting observation. Hadn't thought of it before, but neither M cameras nor Leica-Panasonics have ever had on-axis tripod sockets. The D-Lux 4 handgrip has an on-axis tripod socket; the same will likely be the case for the X1 handgrip. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Advertisement Posted September 17, 2009 Posted September 17, 2009 Hi ho_co, Take a look here Where is X1 made?. I'm sure you'll find what you were looking for!
johnastovall Posted September 17, 2009 Share #82 Posted September 17, 2009 One item more to consider: 1) Generally agreed, I think, that's its a Sony sensor. 2) Generally agreed, I think, that it starts in Japan. Therefore: 3) Is there some Japanese company which is currently producing compacts that still require storing a JPG for each RAW image? The answer to that question might point us to the original builder. Answer to number 3: Ricoh's GR-D's Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dkCambridgeshire Posted September 17, 2009 Share #83 Posted September 17, 2009 According to the BJP M9 article published 16 Sept. and the "X Factor" paragraphs therein ... 'BJP understands that Canon developed the sensor' ie the X1 sensor. Cheers dunk Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nhabedi Posted September 17, 2009 Share #84 Posted September 17, 2009 According to the BJP M9 article published 16 Sept. and the "X Factor" paragraphs therein ... 'BJP understands that Canon developed the sensor' ie the X1 sensor. Which just means that you shouldn't trust BJP too much. It's a Sony sensor: http://www.l-camera-forum.com/leica-forum/leica-x1-forum/98698-x1-does-use-sony-cmos-more.html Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daniel kk Posted September 17, 2009 Share #85 Posted September 17, 2009 I heard a rumour that X1 is something like Sigma DP-2... Is it true or not??? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mjh Posted September 17, 2009 Share #86 Posted September 17, 2009 I heard a rumour that X1 is something like Sigma DP-2... Is it true or not??? A similar concept to be sure (you could say that with the DP1, Sigma had invented the market that Leica now targets with the X1), but a completely different camera. For one thing, there is no Foveon sensor but a CMOS sensor from Sony with a conventional Bayer filter matrix. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
rosuna Posted September 21, 2009 Share #87 Posted September 21, 2009 Advertisement (gone after registration) "Made in Germany", even with the well known limitations of meaning, is clearly engraved in the back. That is not correct. The M8 says "Made in Germany". The X1 "Leica Camera Germany", similar to some Panaleicas... The battery and SD card door has a securing lever very similar to that of the Digilux 1 and Digilux 2. The graphical interface of several menus are very similar to those of the early Panaleicas too... Digilux 2: Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ho_co Posted September 22, 2009 Share #88 Posted September 22, 2009 I believe, that one of the most important assembly operations is precision-aligning the sensor. Jaak--the aligning process in the M9 video and dpreview report is fascinating and exacting, but it's part of the assembly of a camera with interchangeable lenses. Lens-sensor alignment is always crucial, but in the case of cameras that have permanently-attached lenses, the alignment is part of the lens assembly process. Take a loot at the pictures of the finished lens assembly: The lens manufacturer delivers the assembled lens+sensor unit to the camera manufacturer ready to be mounted into the body. (Can't figure out how to link it; see ƒ‰ƒCƒJAuX1vuM9v‚Ì”*•\‰ï‚ðŠJà - ƒfƒWƒJƒWatch, as linked from ƒ‰ƒCƒJAuX1vuM9v‚Ì”*•\‰ï‚ðŠJà - ƒfƒWƒJƒWatch, as referenced at http://www.l-camera-forum.com/leica-forum/leica-x1-forum/98698-x1-does-use-sony-cmos-more.html#post1038378.) Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/95952-where-is-x1-made/?do=findComment&comment=1045447'>More sharing options...
Riley Posted September 24, 2009 Share #89 Posted September 24, 2009 just to throw my hat in the ring Samsung are Korean, not Japanese so if it really is Japan based. its not Samsung Sanyo are the contract builder for Panasonic, Olympus and Nikon. Among other things, they built the E1, I think its them. And Sanyo have been owned by Panasonic for about a year. the sensor is just a component, acquired much like you would from Kodak/Dalsa, Sony, Panasonic, or wherever.., but I agree it doesnt seem like a Panasonic sensor... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nhabedi Posted September 24, 2009 Share #90 Posted September 24, 2009 but I agree it doesnt seem like a Panasonic sensor... I think it was already confirmed that it's a Sony sensor. Not? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Riley Posted September 24, 2009 Share #91 Posted September 24, 2009 geen idee myself i see a lot of things said here, with few confirming details what i meant was, even if it is Sony sensor, doesnt mean they made the parts for the camera Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dmwu Posted September 24, 2009 Share #92 Posted September 24, 2009 Great photo of the lens assembly. Does anyone know if the lens are real glass from Germany or some plastic from Japan Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
rosuna Posted September 24, 2009 Share #93 Posted September 24, 2009 Sanyo are the contract builder for Panasonic, Olympus and Nikon. Among other things, they built the E1, I think its them. And Sanyo have been owned by Panasonic for about a year. So it makes sense for Leica to go to the same manufacturer than Panasonic (and I suppose several Leica compact cameras). Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Riley Posted September 25, 2009 Share #94 Posted September 25, 2009 So it makes sense for Leica to go to the same manufacturer than Panasonic (and I suppose several Leica compact cameras). given the fiasco with Imacon, and the subsequent loss of the DMR thats a yes... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
kevt Posted September 25, 2009 Share #95 Posted September 25, 2009 A similar concept to be sure (you could say that with the DP1, Sigma had invented the market that Leica now targets with the X1), but a completely different camera. For one thing, there is no Foveon sensor but a CMOS sensor from Sony with a conventional Bayer filter matrix. Actually, the Foveon sensor is a Cmos imager with its own unique Bayer-less trilayer architecture, no? However, I do agree that this is almost certainly the Sony cmos as found in their Alpha 700, as well as the Nikons D5000 - D300s. Aside from minor details such as the placement of the LCD panel, dials and buttons, I do see clear similarities between the Sigma DP2 and the Leica X1. they're almost the same size... The pop up flash, hotshoe, and shutter release buttons are in similar positions. Hell, both cameras even have 24mm f2.8 lenses! (Ok you'all can string me up a tree and burn me:) Kev Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ljclark Posted September 25, 2009 Share #96 Posted September 25, 2009 Sanyo are the contract builder for Panasonic, Olympus and Nikon. Among other things, they built the E1, I think its them. Sanyo THE contract builder for Panasonic, Olympus, and Leica? Perhaps A builder, but not THE builder. Cosina built camera bodies for both Olympus and Nikon. Tokina built at least one Oly zoom lens. Or are you just talking about P&S? By "E1" to you mean Olympus E-1? That was built by Oly in Japan. Other Oly DLSRs are built in China. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Riley Posted September 25, 2009 Share #97 Posted September 25, 2009 Sanyo THE contract builder for Panasonic, Olympus, and Leica? Perhaps A builder, but not THE builder. Cosina built camera bodies for both Olympus and Nikon. Tokina built at least one Oly zoom lens. Or are you just talking about P&S? Sanyo cover a wide range of offline components as well as Nikon and Olympus P&S ask yourself is this a CDAF camera in components or an SLR? By "E1" to you mean Olympus E-1? That was built by Oly in Japan. Other Oly DLSRs are built in China. yes Olympus E1 China is a more recent adventure E3 are built in China Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
drstefanlenz Posted September 25, 2009 Share #98 Posted September 25, 2009 don´t know if this is known yet: i read on the german price list at the leica presentation "camera made in germany" (in german) about the x1. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Douglasco Posted September 25, 2009 Share #99 Posted September 25, 2009 It tells you on the Leica x1 brochure it is made in Germany Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dicko101 Posted September 25, 2009 Share #100 Posted September 25, 2009 Much like other similar products, there is always going to be a large amount of ingredients coming from other shores. Unless of course Leica bought out Sony, Sanyo and Panasonic and we didn't notice... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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