edlaurpic Posted November 13, 2006 Share #1 Posted November 13, 2006 Advertisement (gone after registration) I was so amazed at photos that the M8 and f/1 Noctilux produced for me yesterday that I decided to see what would happen if I up-ressed one of the DNGs to print on an Epson 7600 printer (24" wide). I opened the M8 DNG file in Adobe PS CS2, did just a little tweaking of the levels using the black and white dropper tools, then used alien skin's Blowup to up-res the file to 24 X 36, setting the sharpening to 50% and the grain to 50% (in blowup, not CS2). The result is stunning, but I haven't printed it yet. I will a little later this morning (pacific time USA). After I do this, if members of the forum would like to see the result, please tell me how to share that with you. Obviously, I can't post it, but should I take a picture of it and post that? I would be happy to post a 100% section of the 300 meg or so 24 X 36 version if it would be useful, provided that someone will tell me how to do it. By the way, some additional information on the shot: lens was not coded, ASA 320, 1/1500 shutter speed, f/4 DNG/small jpeg, B+W 486 filter affixed. By the way, stated in another thread, I would prefer not to have to use the B+W 486 UV IR cut filter, but until Leica has a fix to deal with the color balance issues under tungsten light, I will use filters if I can get results like these. I left the 486 on the noctilux when I took this photo in my back yard yesterday. On the topic of filters, I would love to buy 39mm and 46mm 486 filters if I could find them. Any suggestions for who might have them? Regards, Ed Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/9129-24-x-36-prints-from-m8-and-noctilux-f1/?do=findComment&comment=92445'>More sharing options...
Advertisement Posted November 13, 2006 Posted November 13, 2006 Hi edlaurpic, Take a look here 24" x 36" prints from M8 and noctilux f/1 . I'm sure you'll find what you were looking for!
clayh Posted November 13, 2006 Share #2 Posted November 13, 2006 Beautiful image. I'm sure the print is stunning. Are you printing on one of the Epsons? BTW, I just checked B&H for 486 filters in 60mm size. $144.95!!!! Wow. I'd need to spend at least $600 on filters to use the M8 right now. Hopefully, they will get the IR thing resolved. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mhleo Posted November 13, 2006 Share #3 Posted November 13, 2006 Ed, many thanks for sharing your pic with Noctilux. I just happened to remark that I've got difficulties to get a perfectly sharp image with Noctilux+M8: it looks as if the focus point was just an inch behind what I actually focus on. Have you remarked the same? Many thanks for your answer, mhleo Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack_Flesher Posted November 13, 2006 Share #4 Posted November 13, 2006 The best way to share print output over the web is to: 1) First calibrate CS so it gives you the true print size on your monitor when you use the "print size" button that comes up on the toolbar when you activate the zoom tool. (Note, this will *not* work by using View>Print size!) To calibrate to correct size, you need to alter the screen resolution value in Edit>Preferences>Units and rulers. When done properly, a print you've sized to 4"x6" should show on your screen as exactly 4x6 inches in dimensions. 2) Now pull up your final, ready-for-print image, go to "print size" per above, scroll the image to get a section you want to share on your desktop, then do a screen capture and post that online. It's not perfect of course, but it is a close as we can get without actually seeing a print. Cheers, Jack Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
davidada Posted November 13, 2006 Share #5 Posted November 13, 2006 You may want to try importing via C1 I have found it so much better than using the PS plugin also if you have alien skin exposure along with blow up turn off the grain in blow up and do it in exposure for a much finer control over the type of grain. also from C1 export in 16 bit and 360 dpi rez up to desired size in blow up choose either 180 dpi or 360 dpi depending on the syestem capacity- there is minimal difference try it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gravastar Posted November 13, 2006 Share #6 Posted November 13, 2006 [snip] On the topic of filters, I would love to buy 39mm and 46mm 486 filters if I could find them. Any suggestions for who might have them? Regards, Ed You can get 39mm and 46mm filters from Willkommen bei Foto Huppert I've just ordered some larger ones for the Noctilux and 75mm Summilux since I use those mostly in artificial light. To navigate the german site: chose your country (it will be used in your delivery address), then B+W Filter Shop, type 486 in the "Sucher" window on the left, scroll down until you find a "Spezialfilter 486 UV IR Cut" and click on Mehr Infos . . . Now use the browser text search function to find 39,0 and 46,0 filter sizes, there are wide angle, slim and F-Pro versions for most sizes. Use the Google language translator if you have any problems completing the order process. Bob. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
edlaurpic Posted November 13, 2006 Author Share #7 Posted November 13, 2006 Advertisement (gone after registration) I am not sure this will work. I did some playing around on my own and will post two images. The first one is the same as the one above, but showing the section of the much larger 441 meg 24 x 36 image that I cropped out of a 100% file. Hope that makes sense. I will try the monitor adjustment later. Thanks for the tips. Ed Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/9129-24-x-36-prints-from-m8-and-noctilux-f1/?do=findComment&comment=92521'>More sharing options...
edlaurpic Posted November 13, 2006 Author Share #8 Posted November 13, 2006 Regarding focusing the Noctilux f/1 on the M8, I have not had any problems doing so even in low light, but I take my time when using apertures below f/2, just because you have such a small depth of field particularly if one is doing a close portrait. I have also been using this lens—as I write this I can't believe it—for thirty years, so I guess I am used to it, and, as everyone has said, the M8 feels just like any other M, except it you have large hands, a I do (size 9.5 glove), it feels even better, particularly because it is lighter than it looks. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guy_mancuso Posted November 13, 2006 Share #9 Posted November 13, 2006 Now I am impressed and it takes a lot for me to be impressed. maybe i should put my name in for another one. LOL Actually i do plan on two M8's Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter41951 Posted November 13, 2006 Share #10 Posted November 13, 2006 Now I am impressed and it takes a lot for me to be impressed. maybe i should put my name in for another one. LOL Actually i do plan on two M8's Ditto from me! (Apart from getting a brace of M8). Beautiful image. More, please. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
edlaurpic Posted November 13, 2006 Author Share #11 Posted November 13, 2006 You are probably not going to believe this, but I think I made a mistake on the last two images posted above. The top one that is supposed to show the area of the blown up image at 100% is not actually equivalent to the 100% image. I apparently forgot to open the image all the way up to 100% prior to doing the cutout simulation shot. My guess is that I opened it up only to about 50%, because when I did it right (which I think I did this time) the image on my screen was much, much larger. Look at the cutout area of the first image below. It is only 2.4" by 2.6" of the original file. The second image below is a file showing the part that was cut out and this time it is actually a true section of the 100% file (I think). Again, I have never done this before, so if I am not doing this right, let me know. Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/9129-24-x-36-prints-from-m8-and-noctilux-f1/?do=findComment&comment=92545'>More sharing options...
mhleo Posted November 13, 2006 Share #12 Posted November 13, 2006 Ed, Thks for your answer. I guess that's the explanation as I've had the Noctilux for only one month... Best, mhleo Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
robsteve Posted November 13, 2006 Share #13 Posted November 13, 2006 Marie: When shooting really close with the Noctilux, your body can sway that inch or so to change the focus before you fire the shutter. Add your sway into a live subject also moving, you can get lots of out of focus subjects if you don't learn to get your sway in sync with the subjects. Up close, once you set the focus, you move your body back and forth to keep yhe patches aligned. Similar to shooting macro with a SLR. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
edlaurpic Posted November 13, 2006 Author Share #14 Posted November 13, 2006 . . . wait a minute. When I just looked at what actually posted above in the last duo of shots from the blown up M8/noctilux experiment, the cut out section is way too big on my screen. The actual size of the cut-out area from the 100% file is only about 2.5" X 2.7" of the 24X36 so I must have accidentally made the file larger when I posted it. Here is one more try to get the sizing right for the cut out area of the last two shots above—should an old fart like me have to be certified in PS CS2 before he is allowed to post images?—food for thought. Anyway, here is the new, hopefully correct, cut out shot and the larger shot that shows from whence it came: Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/9129-24-x-36-prints-from-m8-and-noctilux-f1/?do=findComment&comment=92560'>More sharing options...
edlaurpic Posted November 13, 2006 Author Share #15 Posted November 13, 2006 This time it is definitely accurate. By the way, noise in the dark areas of the image is non-existent. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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