DBAUDUI1 Posted June 24, 2009 Share #1 Posted June 24, 2009 Advertisement (gone after registration) Hello, We had the old Heliar 15mm 4.5 with E39 tread - is this lens excellent to be used on a M8? Can you put a UV/IR filter on it? Is the picture quality good? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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photolandscape Posted June 24, 2009 Share #2 Posted June 24, 2009 Hello,We had the old Heliar 15mm 4.5 with E39 tread - is this lens excellent to be used on a M8? Can you put a UV/IR filter on it? Is the picture quality good? This is a great lens. You will need to get a Leica or B+W UV/IR filter. There are lots of threads on this site about options for mounting the filter--people have come up with lots of solutions, though I think the best one is John Millich's beautifully-milled filter holder/lens shade made specifically for the CV15. You'll also need to code it--and Millich also makes a CV thread to M-mount adapter with indentations for coding, You'll also need a 21mm CV viewfinder to work on the M8, available for Cameraquest.com, which will cost another $150. It's a great, compact little lens. I have one and am about to sell it if you're interested. I bought the new model which offers coupled focusing and a thread for the filter. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DBAUDUI1 Posted June 25, 2009 Author Share #3 Posted June 25, 2009 Many thanks. I am also considering the new VC15mm Heliar. It looks very nice. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lars_bergquist Posted June 25, 2009 Share #4 Posted June 25, 2009 It is optically very good, but problematic on the M8 because of the filter problem. John Milich's adapter is not a good solution as it vignettes the corners. The 'P-type' mount lens is difficult to code properly; most attempts seem to leave residual cyan in the corners. There is/has been a different thread on this. Get a Zeiss Distagon 18mm which is coupled, takes standard 58mm screw-in filters and can be milled for permanent coding if you send the bayonet to John Milich. It is larger than the Heliar but damn good. The old man from the Age of the Pinhole Camera Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sean_reid Posted June 25, 2009 Share #5 Posted June 25, 2009 It is optically very good, but problematic on the M8 because of the filter problem. John Milich's adapter is not a good solution as it vignettes the corners. The 'P-type' mount lens is difficult to code properly; most attempts seem to leave residual cyan in the corners. There is/has been a different thread on this. Get a Zeiss Distagon 18mm which is coupled, takes standard 58mm screw-in filters and can be milled for permanent coding if you send the bayonet to John Milich. It is larger than the Heliar but damn good. The old man from the Age of the Pinhole Camera Hi Lars, The M mount version of this lens is very easy to hand code and, of course, has filter threads. One mark in the groove and the 16 mm WATE setting yields excellent results in my testing so far. You know that I like the ZM 18 very much but the new CV 15 is also a great choice. Best, Sean Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lars_bergquist Posted June 26, 2009 Share #6 Posted June 26, 2009 Hi Lars, The M mount version of this lens is very easy to hand code and, of course, has filter threads. One mark in the groove and the 16 mm WATE setting yields excellent results in my testing so far. You know that I like the ZM 18 very much but the new CV 15 is also a great choice. Best, Sean To judge from the thread called "New Heliar 15mm coding: further considerations", it is something of a problem to find the adequate code for it. My own thread mount and Milich-adaptered CV 15 is at present in retirement. Maybe there will be a FF M9 without any filter requirement ... The old man from the Age of the Pinhole Camera Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
akiralx Posted June 26, 2009 Share #7 Posted June 26, 2009 Advertisement (gone after registration) I've got this old non-rangefinder coupled lens, it has fine optical quality and is tiny. Mine has John Milich's coded adapter so the M8 treats it like a WATE. The UV/IR filter is wedged into the shade with a rubber O ring, very firm. Just don't use it with the filter in place on a FF 35mm camera as I did, a Zeiss Ikon... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sean_reid Posted June 26, 2009 Share #8 Posted June 26, 2009 To judge from the thread called "New Heliar 15mm coding: further considerations", it is something of a problem to find the adequate code for it. My own thread mount and Milich-adaptered CV 15 is at present in retirement. Maybe there will be a FF M9 without any filter requirement ... The old man from the Age of the Pinhole Camera Hi Lars, It is not a problem at all according to my testing. Coded as a WATE, the 16 mm setting should work quite well. If for some reason one needs to back off the cyan drift compensation under certain lighting the camera can be set to 18 mm. It is as simple as that. Cheers, Sean Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carl E Posted August 31, 2009 Share #9 Posted August 31, 2009 Has someone noted the same thing as I have, ie that the LTM8 adapter is a very tight fit in the M8 body? I had to use considerable force to make my CV 15 with the Milich LTM8 adapter snap into place. Removing the CV 15 also became something of a problem since there was no way I could make the adapter come off without first unscrewing the lens. I had to use a screwdriver to make the adapter turn in the mount so that I could remove it. Very cumbersome in the field, and potentially a risk to damage the M8 if you find yourself in a hurry. Regards Carl E Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ecar Posted August 31, 2009 Share #10 Posted August 31, 2009 Has someone noted the same thing as I have, ie that the LTM8 adapter is a very tight fit in the M8 body? I had to use considerable force to make my CV 15 with the Milich LTM8 adapter snap into place. Removing the CV 15 also became something of a problem since there was no way I could make the adapter come off without first unscrewing the lens. I had to use a screwdriver to make the adapter turn in the mount so that I could remove it. Very cumbersome in the field, and potentially a risk to damage the M8 if you find yourself in a hurry. Regards Carl E Same here. Works better after a few mounting/dismounting cycles. Still very tight coupling, though. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
khiromu Posted August 31, 2009 Share #11 Posted August 31, 2009 I use M mount version with 52mm thread. I have coded it as WATE and select 16mm when I use. The results are fine. Coding is easy as the flange has a grooved area where the hand coding won't come off unless you try to. It's more expensive than LTM version, of course... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carl E Posted August 31, 2009 Share #12 Posted August 31, 2009 Same here. Works better after a few mounting/dismounting cycles. Still very tight coupling, though. I am happy to report that John Milich responded very rapidly to my question. He admitted there had a few tight adapters, and he will be sending me a replacement soon. Excellent customer service and I am again a happy bunny since the original CV 15 performs really well on the M8. Carl Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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