thomasl.se Posted November 6, 2006 Share #1 Posted November 6, 2006 Advertisement (gone after registration) What's in the D-Lux 3 box? I'm deciding between the D-Lux 3 and LX2, and among the considerations are the bundled softwares. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Advertisement Posted November 6, 2006 Posted November 6, 2006 Hi thomasl.se, Take a look here D-Lux 3 software bundle. I'm sure you'll find what you were looking for!
robert_parker Posted November 6, 2006 Share #2 Posted November 6, 2006 Thomas In England you get Leica Digital Camera Software v5, which includes Apple Quicktime 6.3 and Adobe Photshop Elements 4.0 for Windows, (version 3.0 for Mac). Here we also get a 64Mb memory card and a leather case Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
miami91 Posted November 6, 2006 Share #3 Posted November 6, 2006 See "scope of supply" section in this document for official package: http://www.leica-camera.us/assets/file/download.php?filename=file_1258.pdf I definitely did not receive a leather case with mine, so perhaps that was a dealer-specific or UK-specific promotion. Jeff. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
thomasl.se Posted November 6, 2006 Author Share #4 Posted November 6, 2006 Hi Robert, I'm in Sweden by the way -- would you know if that's an international bundle? I should call my (one) local dealer tomorrow and ask, of course. This will be my first ever digital camera actually, and I have the RAW learning curve ahead of me. The LX2 comes (internationall, as I understand it) with Silkypix for RAW converion. Does the D-Lux 3 not include any kind of RAW converter -- or am I mistaken about the feautres of those softwares you listed? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
robert_parker Posted November 6, 2006 Share #5 Posted November 6, 2006 I agree with Jeff - (that's why I said 'Here in England') it's important to check what is being supplied locally, as it could be different - the case is a CASE in point:) . Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
robert_parker Posted November 6, 2006 Share #6 Posted November 6, 2006 Thomas I think the only camera which ships with a RAW converter is the M8 which ships with Capture 1 LE - you have to find a converter for the others - from memory I don't know whether PS Elements has or can take the Adobe Camera RAW plug in, as I don't use it - when I tried the plug in with Photoshop CS I wasn't over impressed - with my DMR I have been trying Adobe Lightroom (which is quite easy to use and currently free) and trial versions of Phase One's Capture 1 LE and Capture 1 Pro. Most people say Capture 1 is the best but I've heard mention of software called 'Rawshooter' which is also said to be good. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
robert_parker Posted November 6, 2006 Share #7 Posted November 6, 2006 Advertisement (gone after registration) Ps. If you try Capture 1 with the D-Lux 3, make sure it will convert the 16:9 images that the camera can take - just a thought. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter41951 Posted November 6, 2006 Share #8 Posted November 6, 2006 Thomas ......... but I've heard mention of software called 'Rawshooter' which is also said to be good. Rawshooter is excellent in my opinion; I understand that Adobe has bought the company and the Rawshooter developers are working on Lightroom. I started with Rawshooter Essentials which is free. Info at pixmantec Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
miami91 Posted November 6, 2006 Share #9 Posted November 6, 2006 And in your CASE, you probably deserved to receive a case, Robert. (okay, I've pushed your joke over the edge). I would imagine the purchase price in sterling was a bit higher than USD. Even with a weak american dollar, it seems that Leica products are cheaper in the USA than UK or EU (I think Asia is cheaper still). Thomas: Not sure if the D-Lux 3 comes with Silkypix. But I'm fairly certain that Elements 4 supports Adobe Camera Raw. Forgive me for not knowing --- I use Photoshop CS2 with ACR, so I don't pay much attention to the software bundle. But if I'm correct, that would be the way to go --- ACR with Elements. Jeff. Jeff. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
thomasl.se Posted November 6, 2006 Author Share #10 Posted November 6, 2006 Robert, I might have to 'limp' along with freeware and beta RAW converters for a while then, since the D-Lux 3 alone is pushing my budget currently. I'm really favouring the calm natural Leica JPG tuning though; and the extra warranty plus better resale value also add up to still consider the Leica a good investment. The dealer has a waiting list though, so it could easily be weeks until this gem is mine. Best give them that call tomorrow and secure my place in line. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
robert_parker Posted November 6, 2006 Share #11 Posted November 6, 2006 Peter I might seriously give Rawshooter a try myself, as I've heard very good reports of it Jeff Too right, we DO pay too much for everything here in the UK !! Thomas The Adobe Camera Raw plug in should be ok for a start - but maybe try the Adobe Lightroom beta as well, as it's quite a nice intuitive piece of software to use - although you may well find eventually Capture 1 is the best of all. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
thomasl.se Posted November 6, 2006 Author Share #12 Posted November 6, 2006 Too right, we DO pay too much for everything here in the UK !! Is that right? What did you pay for a D-Lux 3 ? I'm looking to part with the equiv of £460 for it in Sweden. Guys, Thanks for the converter tips. I had a look at Lightroom eariler today, as well as sorting out some what's what in this field. I should leave the screen alone for a while now; and come back to Rawshooter tomorrow (it's downloaded though, noticed it won't be available for long). Cheers, Thomas Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ho_co Posted November 6, 2006 Share #13 Posted November 6, 2006 D-Lux 3 does not include Silkypix. Latest versions of PSE do handle Adobe Camera Raw; latest version of ACR is always available from Adobe's site, but clearly the version Leica ships will include the ability to handle D-Lux 3 RAW files. --HC Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
miami91 Posted November 6, 2006 Share #14 Posted November 6, 2006 Is that right? What did you pay for a D-Lux 3 ? I'm looking to part with the equiv of £460 for it in Sweden. Standard retail price in USA is $599.95. At today's exchange rate, that would be about 316 GBP or 472 Euros. But this is without a leather case. Jeff. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
thomasl.se Posted November 6, 2006 Author Share #15 Posted November 6, 2006 ho_co, Gotcha. miami, I'd take that price tag any day over £460 equiv and a waiting line. The case is not too much of a deal breaker really (not included in the £460 deal anyway; no offense intended either to leather fans). edit: correction Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mreddington Posted November 6, 2006 Share #16 Posted November 6, 2006 Thomas, Photoshop Elements 4.0 is supplied with the D-Lux3 as others have said. But this does not support the raw files out of the box. You need to download and install Adobe Camera Raw v3.6 from the Adobe site (it's free), then you're set. Martin Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
robert_parker Posted November 6, 2006 Share #17 Posted November 6, 2006 Thomas £490 English, no waiting lists (with leather case) Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ho_co Posted November 6, 2006 Share #18 Posted November 6, 2006 ... Photoshop Elements 4.0 ... does not support the raw files out of the box. You need to download and install Adobe Camera Raw v3.6 from the Adobe site (it's free), then you're set. Martin--thanks for clarifying my misunderstanding! --HC Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mreddington Posted November 6, 2006 Share #19 Posted November 6, 2006 Well, you can be forgiven for thinking that the delivered software would support all the camera formats, but I guess that Leica wanted to get it out for Photokina and didn't want to wait around for Adobe to finish updating ACR. I have been using ACR 3.6 with CS2 and it works fine. Martin Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
thomasl.se Posted November 6, 2006 Author Share #20 Posted November 6, 2006 mreddington, All clear now. Thanks! Robert, Give or take a leather case, how did you manage to find a more expensive deal in the UK than over here in Scandiland? I was just about ready to scan German and UK sites for a nice price. Earlier today I compared LX2 prices and the cheapest here (EU import version) is equiv of £420; UK is £290. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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