thephotofather Posted May 11, 2009 Share #1 Posted May 11, 2009 Advertisement (gone after registration) I may seriously purchase this lens tomorrow and would like to hear first hand from users please. Now, I know it's big and relatively heavy, got it, but I have always been a DOF fan when I was shooting SLR's, had the expensive but very fine SLR lenses and find I really miss the Low Light shallow DOF so I'd like to incorporate it into my Leica M6. I cannot afford more so this is why I'm look at her. Thanks Tom Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Photon42 Posted May 11, 2009 Share #2 Posted May 11, 2009 Nothing wrong with it If you are a DOF fan, you'll love it, even if it is a large lens from a rangefinder perspective and it kinda voids the Leica M form factor advantage. But so do other lenses ... For what it's worth, I cannot see any real difference to the Zeiss Biogon 2/35 from f/2 on, regarding overall sharpness -- at least in the center. The image drawn by the Nokton however is less contrasty than the Bio lens. I did not yet experience any flare with the Nokton. The filter size is very convenient for vintage Nikon users (52) ... Nokton Shots Cheers Ivo Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
thephotofather Posted May 11, 2009 Author Share #3 Posted May 11, 2009 Ivo, thank you, That creates a question for myself. I have the zeiss f/2 35mm and love it. So now I have to ask if the DOF is worth it.... My thought is to keep the 35mm zeiss for a walkabout as it's perfect and the 1.2 Voitlander for low light, night time and DOF. But I'm also wondering if this lens has it's own signature like the nox 1.0 does. Sound about right? Thanks again. Tom Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Photon42 Posted May 11, 2009 Share #4 Posted May 11, 2009 Ivo, thank you, That creates a question for myself.I have the zeiss f/2 35mm and love it. So now I have to ask if the DOF is worth it.... Yes. My thought is to keep the 35mm zeiss for a walkabout as it's perfect and the 1.2 Voitlander for low light, night time and DOF. Sounds like a plan - you might find yourself using the Nokton more than you think right now The Nokton plus a 90 forms a very versatile kit, actually. But I'm also wondering if this lens has it's own signature like the nox 1.0 does. I certainly believe the Nokton has it's own, special signature. However, I've never used the Noctilux, so I can't help you with a comparison here. Cheers Ivo Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
thephotofather Posted May 11, 2009 Author Share #5 Posted May 11, 2009 Well, there it is. Done. I'm getting it. Ivo, thank you very much for taking the time and helping. I know that every question here is personal taste but this helps a great deal. It's a lot of money to me. Best and be well. Tom Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Photon42 Posted May 11, 2009 Share #6 Posted May 11, 2009 Well, there it is. Done. I'm getting it. Ivo, thank you very much for taking the time and helping. I know that every question here is personal taste but this helps a great deal. It's a lot of money to me. Best and be well. Tom You won't regret it. Best regards Ivo Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
thomasw_ Posted May 12, 2009 Share #7 Posted May 12, 2009 Advertisement (gone after registration) It renders beautifully. It reminds me of other M-mount Mandler-designed lenses. The only draw back to the f1,2 is the size. Excellent choice for low light shooting. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nando Posted May 12, 2009 Share #8 Posted May 12, 2009 The 35f1.2 Nokton is a phenomenal lens. It is big but it isn't that bad. If you mate it with a light Voigtlander body, it balances very nicely; especially on the Bessa-T. I have no doubt the Bessa-T was made with this lens in mind - the strap lugs are positioned such that the lens balances perfectly (though the camera awkwardly with lighter lenses) and the standard lenshood just clears the lower 35mm brightline on the external metal finder. On a heavier Leica M-body, it doesn't balance as well but one can certainly live with it. I use my 35mm Summicron-ASPH most of the time and reserve the 35mm Nokton to those times when I know there will be very dim lighting. The combination was cheaper than buying a 35 Summilux-ASPH. During day trips, I sometimes leave the 35mm Summicron at home if I'm desperate for space and just take the 35 Nokton. Not only is it incredible at wider apertures but it performs absolutely beautifully throughout it's entire aperture range. Some photos: Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
thephotofather Posted May 23, 2009 Author Share #9 Posted May 23, 2009 Nando, these images are simply stunning on every level. Thank you. I have plans to purchase this next week. Thank you again. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
thephotofather Posted May 23, 2009 Author Share #10 Posted May 23, 2009 opps, one more please if you don't mind...... How do you guys meter using this lens? I would assume I would meter on the lighter area vs. the shadows.... Thank you again. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
kenneth Posted May 23, 2009 Share #11 Posted May 23, 2009 opps, one more please if you don't mind...... How do you guys meter using this lens? I would assume I would meter on the lighter area vs. the shadows.... Thank you again. Meter the highlights with colour reversal and the shadows with B&W. Check out the other post on the Film Forum. Cosina Voigtlander cameras do not seem favoured by the poster replying to the OP wanting to know whether to by a second M6 or a Cosina Voigtlander. I would also second the comment that they seem rather basic after a Leica. You could of course go totally radical and buy a Zeiss Ikon. I have read very good reports about them Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
thomasw_ Posted May 23, 2009 Share #12 Posted May 23, 2009 You could of course go totally radical and buy a Zeiss Ikon. I have read very good reports about them..... I do not recommend the ZI. I wanted to like it; I bought by mail order two different bodies but ended up with RF alignment problems each time. Both went back. Very recently I was just about to buy yet a third ZI body off of a local vendor, though prior to purchase I inspected it and, yep, the alignment was off. There are many cool aspects to the ZI -- some claim the finder is the brightest RF finder ever -- but the QC with the ZI would be a huge concern to me. On RFF you will find a lot of posts in the ZI subforum where ZI users own a body that is out of alignment but they claim to have just gotten used to using it that way because it is too much of a hassle to send it back to Zeiss for fixing. That's a cautionary bit of evidence. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
thephotofather Posted May 23, 2009 Author Share #13 Posted May 23, 2009 Thanks guys but I was asking more about the1.2 lens, not the voigt body. So, with the 1.2 lens, its pretty much the same, b/w meters the shadows et. al. Thanks Tom Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nando Posted May 23, 2009 Share #14 Posted May 23, 2009 Tom, Thanks for the compliment. As far as metering goes, I normally use a small incident meter (Sekonic L-208) or I meter off my hand. I don't do anything differently with the 35f1.2 Nokton. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
thephotofather Posted May 23, 2009 Author Share #15 Posted May 23, 2009 Tom,I don't do anything differently with the 35f1.2 Nokton. Thats exactly what I was looking for. Thank you!!! Tom Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
kenneth Posted May 23, 2009 Share #16 Posted May 23, 2009 Thanks guys but I was asking more about the1.2 lens, not the voigt body. So, with the 1.2 lens, its pretty much the same, b/w meters the shadows et. al. Thanks Tom Metering is the same with any lens but recommended asa speed re rating differs film to film. This then is reflected in the processing time so you would need to be more specific, and re the Cosina 1.2 lens. Why would you need such a fast lens? which unlike the Leica equivalent cannot be up to much compared with the quality of the rest of the products Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
thephotofather Posted May 23, 2009 Author Share #17 Posted May 23, 2009 Tom, Why would you need such a fast lens? which unlike the Leica equivalent cannot be up to much compared with the quality of the rest of the products Hi Ken, ever since I've traded in my digital equipment I miss the fast lenses for both the low light availability and the unique DOF. After seeing many pictures taken with the 1.2 it does seem clear, at least to me, it has it's own unique signature which I happen to like quite a bit. My favorate lens of all time was the Canon 85mm 1.2 and the Canon 135mm f/2. I very much miss these types of images. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nando Posted May 23, 2009 Share #18 Posted May 23, 2009 Hi Tom, That quote should read "Posted by Kenneth" not "Posted by Nando". Personally, I have the 24 Elmarit ASPH, 35 Summicron ASPH, 50 Summilux ASPH, and the latest 90 Elmarit. I can assure you that you won't be dissapointed in the quality of the CV 35f1.2 Nokton if you directly compare it to a Leica lens. And if you do, the $900 price will probably make up for any tiny shortcomings. I think that you will be happy with this lens. Have you seen the new CV 50mm f1.1 Nokton? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
thephotofather Posted May 23, 2009 Author Share #19 Posted May 23, 2009 Hi Nando, I can't wait..... I'll have it in time for my friends wedding next weekend. (I really can't find a xpan rental and it's driving me nutz......) I have seen pictures of the new 1.1 and frankly I'm not yet impressed. Pictures over the net are not best to judge but still, not impressive as of yet. Very best, Tom Hi Tom, That quote should read "Posted by Kenneth" not "Posted by Nando". Personally, I have the 24 Elmarit ASPH, 35 Summicron ASPH, 50 Summilux ASPH, and the latest 90 Elmarit. I can assure you that you won't be dissapointed in the quality of the CV 35f1.2 Nokton if you directly compare it to a Leica lens. And if you do, the $900 price will probably make up for any tiny shortcomings. I think that you will be happy with this lens. Have you seen the new CV 50mm f1.1 Nokton? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
kenneth Posted May 24, 2009 Share #20 Posted May 24, 2009 Hi Tom, That quote should read "Posted by Kenneth" not "Posted by Nando". Personally, I have the 24 Elmarit ASPH, 35 Summicron ASPH, 50 Summilux ASPH, and the latest 90 Elmarit. I can assure you that you won't be dissapointed in the quality of the CV 35f1.2 Nokton if you directly compare it to a Leica lens. And if you do, the $900 price will probably make up for any tiny shortcomings. I think that you will be happy with this lens. Have you seen the new CV 50mm f1.1 Nokton? As indicated, I am not at all interested in Cosina Voigtlander lenses in fact I have all the lenses I need to last me my lifetime and future re births for that matter but thank you anyway Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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