Guest Ron (Netherlands) Posted March 7, 2009 Share #1 Posted March 7, 2009 Advertisement (gone after registration) I am offered two 35mm Summicrons both produced in canada. However I am not sure whether these are socalled 3rd or 4rd generation (non-asph) lenses. Can someone provide info at which serial number the 4rd generation (sometimes called king of bookeh) lenses started. thanks in advance Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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lars_bergquist Posted March 7, 2009 Share #2 Posted March 7, 2009 The serial numbers of the V.4 Summicron start at 2,974,251 The old man from the Age of the Eight-element Summicron Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Ron (Netherlands) Posted March 7, 2009 Share #3 Posted March 7, 2009 The serial numbers of the V.4 Summicron start at 2,974,251 The old man from the Age of the Eight-element Summicron Lars thank you for the fast response. I now know I was offered V3 lenses. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lars_bergquist Posted March 8, 2009 Share #4 Posted March 8, 2009 Good. The reason why the V.4 was commended for its bokeh was that the bokeh of the V.2 and .3 lenses was pretty atrocious. The V.4 is a nice lens and still very useful, especially for its compactness. It is actually better on the M8 than on a film M, because the far edges and corners, which are a bit soft on film, are cropped out. Modern M lenses such as the ASPH 35mm lenses do actually have even better bokeh than the V.4 however; in certain situations (e.g. many smalll flecks of light under trees) its out-of-focus rendering does exhibit a fairly high level of astigmatism, The people who gripe about the "harsh bokeh" of the current lenses are not talking about bokeh at all, which refers to o.o.f. rendering only. Most of them do not even know what bokeh is. What they don't like is the fact that the sharp parts of the image are much crisper! Well they can stop griping and buy a soft filter and get some "Leica glow". The old man from the Age of the 3.5cm Elmar Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
frederics Posted March 12, 2009 Share #5 Posted March 12, 2009 Good. The reason why the V.4 was commended for its bokeh was that the bokeh of the V.2 and .3 lenses was pretty atrocious. The V.4 is a nice lens and still very useful, especially for its compactness. It is actually better on the M8 than on a film M, because the far edges and corners, which are a bit soft on film, are cropped out. Modern M lenses such as the ASPH 35mm lenses do actually have even better bokeh than the V.4 however; in certain situations (e.g. many smalll flecks of light under trees) its out-of-focus rendering does exhibit a fairly high level of astigmatism, The people who gripe about the "harsh bokeh" of the current lenses are not talking about bokeh at all, which refers to o.o.f. rendering only. Most of them do not even know what bokeh is. What they don't like is the fact that the sharp parts of the image are much crisper! Well they can stop griping and buy a soft filter and get some "Leica glow". I have v. 4 & tried it on an M8. I found the out of focus areas looking more like my sm red scale elmar! Any thoughts on that? Definately to my eye a diff look.. Best, Frederic Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Artorius Posted March 13, 2009 Share #6 Posted March 13, 2009 Good. The reason why the V.4 was commended for its bokeh was that the bokeh of the V.2 and .3 lenses was pretty atrocious. The V.4 is a nice lens and still very useful, especially for its compactness. It is actually better on the M8 than on a film M, because the far edges and corners, which are a bit soft on film, are cropped out. Modern M lenses such as the ASPH 35mm lenses do actually have even better bokeh than the V.4 however; in certain situations (e.g. many smalll flecks of light under trees) its out-of-focus rendering does exhibit a fairly high level of astigmatism, The people who gripe about the "harsh bokeh" of the current lenses are not talking about bokeh at all, which refers to o.o.f. rendering only. Most of them do not even know what bokeh is. What they don't like is the fact that the sharp parts of the image are much crisper! Well they can stop griping and buy a soft filter and get some "Leica glow". I have v. 4 & tried it on an M8. I found the out of focus areas looking more like my sm red scale elmar! Any thoughts on that? Definately to my eye a diff look.. Best, Frederic Nobody mentioned the 35mm f/2 v1. I love mine, great Bokeh(sp), great drawing, but my only problem is lens flare. I don't like it for color, but it is fantastic in B&W. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
russell c. greenberg Posted March 14, 2009 Share #7 Posted March 14, 2009 Advertisement (gone after registration) Nobody mentioned the 35mm f/2 v1. I love mine, great Bokeh(sp), great drawing, but my only problem is lens flare. I don't like it for color, but it is fantastic in B&W. Art, Just went on this post, I love my v1 35/f2 lens also. Mine is a very late chrome one w/great glass and very good cosmetics. I love using it for color as well as b/w. I called Leica NJ and found out that because my lens is late issue(?) that it can be 6 bit coded for my M8 cameras if I choose to do this. It works fine in its original state. Again love this lens!!! Russell. P.S. thanks for your help w/ firmware upgrade earlier this month. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Theodor Heinrichsohn Posted March 15, 2009 Share #8 Posted March 15, 2009 Nobody mentioned the 35mm f/2 v1. I love mine, great Bokeh(sp), great drawing, but my only problem is lens flare. I don't like it for color, but it is fantastic in B&W. I agree wholeheartedly. I like this lense so much I have several, including black M Wetzlar type; chrome Canadian one with little screw in the bayonet which can be removed and converted to screw type; rare black Canadian screw type. I have used them constantly (excluding the black screw one, which is very rare and in mint condition) on all my film Leicas and now the M8 and M8u without coding, but with UV/IR filters. Teddy Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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