thephotofather Posted March 3, 2009 Share #1 Posted March 3, 2009 Advertisement (gone after registration) Good Morning. I hope this is the correct forum, I could not find anything else... I'm trying to learn, with my M6, a specific style of shooting two different types of frames and I'm having a hard time learning. Would you please take a look at the below two links and see if you might start with any suggestions.... Here is an example from a wedding photographer and I so much admire his work/art. (I'm not a wedding photographer nor a pro) Thanks so much. 1. Kind of a HCB frame. long shutter speed? Last photo on the first blog entry, blurry wedding couple exiting. Riccis Valladares Photography Blog | Latest work from Riccis Valladares | Fine Art Wedding Photography | Paris, New York, Los Angeles, Miami 2. Wonderful Lighting. Backlit? how? 5th photo down Riccis Valladares Photography Blog | Latest work from Riccis Valladares | Fine Art Wedding Photography | Paris, New York, Los Angeles, Miami Thank you for any input.. Tom Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Advertisement Posted March 3, 2009 Posted March 3, 2009 Hi thephotofather, Take a look here Trying to learn this method please.... I'm sure you'll find what you were looking for!
Photoskeptic Posted March 3, 2009 Share #2 Posted March 3, 2009 Tom, I can't answer your questions but you couldn't pick a better photographer to emulate style than Riccis. He is one of the very best and contributes on a regular basis to this forum. IMO, the second image you refer to appears to be overexposed to achieve the look. Good luck! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dave_d Posted March 3, 2009 Share #3 Posted March 3, 2009 Tom, Photo 1 looks to be of existing light with a slow shutter speed, maybe around 1/15 of a second. The lights are coming from behind and it looks like some from the front too. Photo 2 is also existing light and has one light source which appears to be the light bulb in the upper right corner of the photo the subjects are side lit. Does this answer your question? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
thephotofather Posted March 3, 2009 Author Share #4 Posted March 3, 2009 Skeptic, I know right? He is the only photographer in my life I want to learn from, I can learn from everyone for sure, but I really admire this mans art. I inspire to just come a thousand steps away from it. I want my own style for sure but I know the direction I want to go in. I traded in my new D700 system last month for a M6 and I am tickled pink with it. I'm 48, just went back to school to finish my degree in fine-art photography and life is so good. On photo number two, would that not be UNDERexposed? Dave, it really does help thanks. I love the long blurry movement of this. Do you think that this is the form that HCB used a lot? Thanks guys. Tom Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Bernd Banken Posted March 3, 2009 Share #5 Posted March 3, 2009 Dave, it really does help thanks. I love the long blurry movement of this. Do you think that this is the form that HCB used a lot? Thanks guys. Tom Hi, please remember that in the golden age of Leicas in the hands of the old masters film speed was not on the same level as today. A Noctilux was not available so open lens (with its limitations of design, glass etc.) plus slowly exposures gave this special "look". The pic you mentioned has the double movements: 1. The camera itself - see the door windows - they don't move but are blurry and 2. The persons, the rice corns, faces and arms etc. which move to fast for the slow shutter speed. It depends on the customers thinking and the skill of the photographer to add a non-sharp photograph, but Riccis nailed here the "mood" of the exploding walking out of the wedding-office? - in a way which is much better than a razor-sharp picture.... I'm sure he will give you some hints when there is time for him..... Cheers Bernd PS: my best blurry pic: The Race on Flickr - Photo Sharing! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Riccis Posted March 3, 2009 Share #6 Posted March 3, 2009 Tom: First of all I want to thank you for your lovely comments, regardless of whether you are a pro or not, I really appreciate them and I'm humbled by your words. I have to run out now but I will be back later to this thread and answer your questions about how I made those two images. Speak soon! Cheers, Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dave_d Posted March 3, 2009 Share #7 Posted March 3, 2009 Advertisement (gone after registration) Riccis, my compliment on some great work. Another photographer who does a great job using a similiar style is John Goodman: John Goodman Photography Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Riccis Posted March 3, 2009 Share #8 Posted March 3, 2009 Good Morning. I hope this is the correct forum, I could not find anything else... I'm trying to learn, with my M6, a specific style of shooting two different types of frames and I'm having a hard time learning. Would you please take a look at the below two links and see if you might start with any suggestions.... Here is an example from a wedding photographer and I so much admire his work/art. (I'm not a wedding photographer nor a pro) Thanks so much. 1. Kind of a HCB frame. long shutter speed? Last photo on the first blog entry, blurry wedding couple exiting. Riccis Valladares Photography Blog | Latest work from Riccis Valladares | Fine Art Wedding Photography | Paris, New York, Los Angeles, Miami On this image, I leveraged the flash from a bunch of guests behind me and went available light since as all I needed came from either their point and shoots or from the outdoor light in the house. If I recall correctly this was shot around f/2.8 and somewhere around 1/15-1/30s... The motion comes from the guests showering them with rose petals. The cool thing about this image is that in the high resolution file you can still see their smiling faces. I did not wanted to light the whole thing perfectly since a key element of my style is not to have everything perfect as I rather have the viewer discover new elements in the frame as they look closer at my images. 2. Wonderful Lighting. Backlit? how? 5th photo down Riccis Valladares Photography Blog | Latest work from Riccis Valladares | Fine Art Wedding Photography | Paris, New York, Los Angeles, Miami Thank you for any input.. Tom This was an engagement session shot in the basement underneath a theater's stage. Both of these clients are theater actors and what better way to make some frames in an environment they are comfortable. The bulb you see was the only light source and I position them in a way that most of the light spilled into her while casting the faintest shadow possible in him. When I do portraits, the majority of the times only one subject is the one I'm interested in while the other one is just used as a prop (seriously)... In this case I was making a portrait of her hence she got most of the light while he is just cropped (in camera) and in the shadows... Now, this is just my style of doing things and not necessarily everyone's cup of tea but just wanted to illustrate to you how I see things. This image was made with an M8, ISO 640 and a Noctilux wide open. I just positioned them until I saw the shadows casted by the light bulb the way I wanted them, stood up in a chair and shot down. I am a huge fan of simplicity and never bring any auxiliary lights to my shoots (other than a flash for about 5% of my wedding images) as I'm better at making images with the aid of whatever is around (street light, car lamps, etc...) instead of hauling umbrellas and modifiers which will make me lazy because I'll have guaranteed images... The way I see it, if I come naked (lightwise ), I am more receptive to the environment around me which forces me to be more creative... makes sense? Hope this helps, and thanks for all the kind words again. Cheers, Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Finnkare Posted March 3, 2009 Share #9 Posted March 3, 2009 I thought thephotofather ment the picture above the bulb picture, the one with the stairs. It suits better with his description and is the fifth down if you count also the "topic" picture. I'd guess it's made with an old flare-prone lens with a light source just outside the frame. Maybe also some expired film, if not even cross-processing... Or then just overexposing and underdeveloping, as someone suggested. I don't know if I'm right with my mathematics, but I'd be happy to learn this too . Not that this has to be a "Photo school for free by Riccis" . Nice pics anyway, the topic picture is also very fine. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Riccis Posted March 3, 2009 Share #10 Posted March 3, 2009 I thought thephotofather ment the picture above the bulb picture, the one with the stairs. It suits better with his description and is the fifth down if you count also the "topic" picture. I'd guess it's made with an old flare-prone lens with a light source just outside the frame. Maybe also some expired film, if not even cross-processing... Or then just overexposing and underdeveloping, as someone suggested. I don't know if I'm right with my mathematics, but I'd be happy to learn this too . Not that this has to be a "Photo school for free by Riccis" . Nice pics anyway, the topic picture is also very fine. This is the 5th photo down, so I assumed he was referring to this one... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
thephotofather Posted March 4, 2009 Author Share #11 Posted March 4, 2009 Hi Riccis. Thank you so much for taking the time~~~ Yes, you found and commented on the correct image. I really, really adore your art. I guess the reason is that I am drawn to this style or I identify with it. I did in fact travel all the around the frame exploring new things as mentioned in your first example. And I did see the couple smiling. I'm not yet to the level in my art or vision whereas I can leverage others flash to achive my vision esp, in such a high pressure cooker as a wedding. A while ago I fell into the trap of thinking I needed supplement lighting, i.e. flash, but I was so uncomfortable with it and begun to buck the trend and thus relate to your pictures. So, I'm happy studying right now and again, thank you for your time. I'm a avid follower of your blog and encourge others to follow. Tom Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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