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I have a standard film R8 and want to do more indoor and outdoor event work. My othe Leicas are M3, IIIa and IIIb - available light work. From what little I can gather about the 60ct-1, is that it has sufficient power, range, and requires the battery pack (not a negative fore me). Here is what I am confused about: are the 60ct-series actually too powerful for the R8 and will fry the cicuitry? Is that why I've read that some use the 45cl digital instead? And am I correct that either series must plug onto a 3502 module (placed in the hotshoe? And lastly, if the 60ct series will work with the analog R8, will it work with a dmr back on it? (I am willing to wait for used dmr prices to go down). Thanks in advance!

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I have a standard film R8 and want to do more indoor and outdoor event work. My othe Leicas are M3, IIIa and IIIb - available light work. From what little I can gather about the 60ct-1, is that it has sufficient power, range, and requires the battery pack (not a negative fore me). Here is what I am confused about: are the 60ct-series actually too powerful for the R8 and will fry the cicuitry? Is that why I've read that some use the 45cl digital instead? And am I correct that either series must plug onto a 3502 module (placed in the hotshoe? And lastly, if the 60ct series will work with the analog R8, will it work with a dmr back on it? (I am willing to wait for used dmr prices to go down). Thanks in advance!

 

1) What can fry an electronic camera is a high trigger voltage on the flash; this is nothing to do with the light output of the flash. According to Photo Strobe Trigger Voltages the 60CT-1 has a trigger voltage of about 21v, which should be safe on a good electronic camera. But you need to avoid ancient devices such as the oroginal 45-CT1 , which put more than 200v through the camera (see FAQ: Metz for details).

 

2) The 60-CT1 is a plain automatic flash with no fancy SCA stuff. Use a plain sync lead or the standard foot SCA310 and cable SCA300A. If you want TTL on a R8 you'll need a 60-CT4 and SCA3502 (according to http://www.metz.de/fileadmin/fm-dam/Download/Homepage_Englisch/Photo_Electronic/SCA_Archiv/SCA_Adapter_Archive_GB.pdf). I had a 60-CT4 many years ago and liked it a lot, but subsequently downsized to the 45 series.

 

3) At a guess the TTL flash metering won't work (or won't work reliably) with the DMR. But the flash will still work fine in A mode.

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Thank you very much, Giordano. I think I will go ahead and get the 60-ct1. At the moment it should work with several of my cameras (IIIb, M3, R8, Mamiya RB69-Pro, and Anniv. Speed Graphic (US Army Signal Corps)). Notice how they get bigger and bigger. My Vivitar 285-HV has fizzed out - lots of light; but clumsy in the hot-shoe position. Thanks again, and will post some Metz-aided pics once its delivered.

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  • 3 weeks later...

Took a quick shot of the R8 with my new, used, Metz 60CT-1. I did not include the battery pack, shoulder strap and power cord. It uses the dryfit type of battery. Plan to go to the St. Patrick's Day Parade in San Francisco on Saturday and try it out. It is a daytime parade, so will plan to use it for fill flash.

 

I've tested it with my Mamiya RB67 and it really shines :p

 

Next thing is to get a bi-post to pc sync cord, and I'll fire up the 4x5 Speed Graphic. Watch out Weegee.

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