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D-Lux 4 Market Research


Kirk

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After playing with my D-lux 3 for a few days now, I figured I'd resurrect this thread with my $0.02 (metric dollars).

 

USB 2.0 - good gawd, could it take any longer to transfer the pics? I don't use card readers as that is just one more thing to futz with, and I don't like going into the battery compartment that often. Just implement faster transfer...like most other cams now have..

 

You'll really wish you'd used a card reader when you fry the USB port in your camera.

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...Biggest thing for me would be more intuitive manual focus - I much prefer turning a ring (as in Digilux 2) than operating a joystick.

 

I'd also love a minatire camera like that to have interchangeable lenses...

 

 

ps. whilst I've never (yet) fried a port, it's amazing how much more convenient using a card reader is, compared to USB downloading

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well, never let it be said that an old dog can't learn new tricks. I'll pick up an integrated card reader and try that. I have an older 8-way with separate cable but the "thumb drive" equivalent seems much more convenient.

 

Since getting my FZ20 a few years back I've been annoyed that Panasonic has decided to not use the standard mini usb connection. Every other media device I have uses that and I always have a cable lying around. With the Panny I had to have their damn cable. I suppose a card reader obviates that. Always another way to do things...

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Just make Leica partner up with Ricoh, use their GR-D and GX100 frame & ergonomics (don't touch a thing of them, they're near perfect), put in a Panasonic sensor, Leica processing parameters and get out a Minilux D with a fixed Summicron 28/2 asph equivalent, and a Minilux D Zoom with a Vario Elmar 24-105/2.8-4 lens.

 

I'd gladly pay 11-15 hundred for that (US $, that is)

 

Ed

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reading through this thread it's noticeable how many see a viewfinder as one of the most desirable additions (me too). Another current thread describes how a Voigtlander vf can be used with a D-Lux 3. Given the interest shown here I wonder why more have not given that a try? Maybe the Heath Robinson aspect of it all - glue, sticky tape etc - is a turn off?

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Fast lens, I have an old Canon G3 with F2-F3 lens if this could be done a few years back why not now.

 

28 - 100 lens at F2 across the range

Decent flash or better still a hotshoe

Better noise control without the smearing.

 

Other than that the D-Lux 3 is very good

 

Thanks

 

Kevin

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But if it fries it has to cop a surge from the computer?

You are frightening me Andy, the LX whatever the number is due back from KZ and I know she will hook it up to the new model ratshit screen iMac. That would be the last straw the thing would get heaved out the window.

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Mac or PC, it makes no odds.

 

If you are continually plugging the thing into a tiny USB socket, one day something is going to go wrong. Shit happens.

 

The least that will happen is that you will wear the socket and allow the connection to become sloppy.

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Mac or PC, it makes no odds.

 

If you are continually plugging the thing into a tiny USB socket, one day something is going to go wrong. Shit happens.

 

The least that will happen is that you will wear the socket and allow the connection to become sloppy.

 

Have you ever had this happen to you? I've been using an old Canon SD400 for quite a few years and tens of thousands of pictures and never an issue. Same with my Nikon. I have a lot less use with my FZ20 (which uses the same stupid connector as the Leica), but I'm trying to get a feel for how prevalent this is. Seems to me you can make the same argument about the card slot, retainer, and battery door assembly.

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This was the second compact camera that really got me excited. The first was the Epson RD-1 that nearly got it so right as it was completely manual including the shutter so no lag. The most recent camera to get me excited was the new Lumix DMC-FX35. What caught my eye was the wider angle Leica 25-100mm lens. Almost there! Personally, I'm hoping to one day put my hands on a high end compact digital camera with these features:

 

1. Built-in 16-85mm (35mm equiv.) f2.8 lens with a manual focusing ring. Keep the 3 formats 4:3, 3:2, and 16:9

2. A fully manual camera so that I don't have to wait for exposure, focus, and any other electronic mumbo jumbo. The option to turn all programmed settings off. Just give me the results in RAW format and I'll take care of the rest manually.

3. Hot shoe and sync for all kinds of flash. Keep the pop-up for those moments when you can't carry extra equipment.

4. Robust body that's easy to hold for medium size hands.

5. Excellent viewfinder and cover for the lcd screen.

 

I'd pay up to $1500.00 for this configuration and buy two. You can deal with all the marketing b.s. like mega pixels, ois, size, weight etc. Watch all those folks that carry around bulky SLRs and lenses dump their entry level kits and intermediate cameras for this beauty.

 

This is a photojournalist's wet dream ... okay those that can't afford the M8. I'd put it in the bag as a backup for my DSLRs which I hate. I've never liked them and hated having to make a 1.6 conversion on my 35mm lenses. Much of that premium L-series glass has now been sold off for much less than I paid for it and I'm loathe to replace them all now especially as Canon seems to think that people will buy specific lenses for specific bodies. They've screwed me one too many times and they're never getting another penny of my cash for their garbage consumer level bodies!

 

I'm going four thirds for my DSLR systems as Olympus seems to get it with their beautiful wide and ultrawide zooms.

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I think we will probably see the latest Leica 25-125mm zoom (as in the Panasonic FX500) in the D-Lux 4 with a higher resolution rear LCD like the latest Panasonic TZ5 (430,000 pixels). The Venus IV engine will replace the Venus III of the D-Lux 3. Hopefully it will have better looking files at 800 ISO.

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