biglouis Posted October 15, 2006 Share #1 Â Posted October 15, 2006 Advertisement (gone after registration) Is anyone else using Lightroom Beta 4? Is it me or it is slower in processing libraries and on initial startup than the previous version? Â Just wanted to check whether it is my machine or the product. Â LouisB Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Guest stnami Posted October 15, 2006 Share #2 Â Posted October 15, 2006 I would say that it is slower in processing but I have multiple (20 odd) libraries and never make them too big so it is not a drama. It is the product Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
brucek Posted October 15, 2006 Share #3 Â Posted October 15, 2006 Lightroom has frustrated the daylights out of me. I have to put the Library on an exterrnal drive and for whatever reason I've lost all of the thumbnails. All of the photo information is still there - just no thumbnails. <sigh> Â I'd give Aperture a try but their RAW support is too limited. Â Still looking for other options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
spylaw4 Posted October 15, 2006 Share #4 Â Posted October 15, 2006 Lightroom has frustrated the daylights out of me. I have to put the Library on an exterrnal drive and for whatever reason I've lost all of the thumbnails. All of the photo information is still there - just no thumbnails. <sigh>Â I'd give Aperture a try but their RAW support is too limited. Â Still looking for other options... Â There is a method for finding a re-located library, so as to get the thumbs back. I'll see if I can locate the details, but I can't quite recall whether it was mentioned here, or on the Lightroom website or somewhere else! Â Louis - my impression is that it is a little bit slower on startup but much the same otherwise. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrism Posted October 15, 2006 Share #5 Â Posted October 15, 2006 I'm finding Lightroom beta 4 a good deal faster than Aperture 1.5 (this on a 2GHz MacBookPro). Â Chris Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
spylaw4 Posted October 15, 2006 Share #6 Â Posted October 15, 2006 Lightroom has frustrated the daylights out of me. I have to put the Library on an exterrnal drive and for whatever reason I've lost all of the thumbnails. All of the photo information is still there - just no thumbnails. <sigh>Â I'd give Aperture a try but their RAW support is too limited. Â Still looking for other options... Â Back again with a possible answer. It appears that there is a feature that I have only just discovered. It is possible to select multiple libraries when starting B4. When starting Lightroom on Mac hold down the Alt key and a library picker screen appears allowing one to select a library location or set up a new library. There is a similar method when starting in Windows. My thanks to seanmcfoto for this. Perhaps this will solve your problem. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
biglouis Posted October 15, 2006 Author Share #7 Â Posted October 15, 2006 Advertisement (gone after registration) Back again - well I have done more research and also posted some questions in the usenet group. I've optimised my start-up files on the PC and I have to say by avoiding loading any app unless absolutely critical, e.g. nothing but my Anti-Virus software I've speeded up processing in Lightroom (and PS) considerably. Â I guess I needed to spring clean my configuration which has gone a long way to improving performance. Do Mac users have these problems???? Â LouisB Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Maio Posted October 15, 2006 Share #8 Â Posted October 15, 2006 I've given up on Lightroom and only use Aperture ocassionly. I am Mac based, and find that my current workflow of PhotoMechanic==> Capture One ==> and CS2 still works most efficiently for me. C1 will support the M8 and ACR already does. Â When I "ingest" images using PhotoMechanic I rename them to reflect the clients name and sequential number. I also adjust the IPTF data at that time. I find that the Mac "Spotlight" search feature, built into the OS (and soon to be improved in the next major release) lets me find images very quicly anywhere on any mounted drive. Â For me, this works just fine and I'm begining to question why I even bought Aperture:confused: Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
stunsworth Posted October 15, 2006 Share #9 Â Posted October 15, 2006 Maybe I'm using the Lightroom incorrectly, but I still prefer a combination of iView Media Pro and CS2. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
brucek Posted October 15, 2006 Share #10 Â Posted October 15, 2006 It is possible to select multiple libraries when starting B4. When starting Lightroom on Mac hold down the Alt key and a library picker screen appears allowing one to select a library location or set up a new library. There is a similar method when starting in Windows. My thanks to seanmcfoto for this. Perhaps this will solve your problem. Â Brian: Â Thanks, but that's what I do usually since my Library resides on an external drive. Still no thumbnails. I think they're gone to that great Bit Bucket in the sky. :-) And I've brought this up on the Lightroom Beta Bug Report Forum and never received an answer. Â Thanks for trying, though. I appreciate it. Â Bruce Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
albertwang Posted October 16, 2006 Share #11 Â Posted October 16, 2006 I think that this depends on your pc/mac setup. On my Alienware laptop it works decently but the Powerbook it will be a wee faster. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ptomsu Posted October 16, 2006 Share #12 Â Posted October 16, 2006 I tried Lightroom and I could not get friend with it! Â I am using C1 Pro and PS CS2 and this allows me to define my libraries and storage exactly how I want it. Â I have tried iLive6 for storage, but this does weired things to thums etc, so I assume that the mighty Aperture would do similar things. In the end of the day I will then not be aware of where my originals are stored. Might try it anyway, but not sure if this is the future. Â Peter Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
albertwang Posted October 16, 2006 Share #13 Â Posted October 16, 2006 Ironically in some ways, iPhoto has become a lot faster than the Lightroom. However, there are lots more options than iPhoto which you can't do all that much with it... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
abrewer Posted October 16, 2006 Share #14 Â Posted October 16, 2006 The speed of Lightroom is dependent on machine in my experience. Â My Dell at home is slow, slow, slow. My HP/Compaq mobile laptop that I travel with is faster. I haven't tried Lightroom on a MAC yet. Â Agree about closing out other aps, especially on the older computer (the Dell). It's slow as molasses if I don't. Â Not entirely sold on the Exposure/Recover/Fill/Blacks slider approach, and the Curves function is a nightmare compared to the simpler approach in PS. The little "Vibrancy" slider gets a workout though, as everybody knows I'm a lush for color. Â Big thing about Lightroom 4 (to me) is being able to create flash photo slideshows I can put up on my server and send a link to friends and family, and the Export function with ability to convert RAW to Tiff/JPEG/DNG whatever...those two features have been the reason I continue to play with it. Â Thanks. Â Allan Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ptomsu Posted October 16, 2006 Share #15 Â Posted October 16, 2006 If Lightroom comes in the functional regions of Aperture it will be as slow (or fast) as Aperture! Thy cannot do something magic and have all to cook with the same HW platforms. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
albertwang Posted October 16, 2006 Share #16 Â Posted October 16, 2006 The speed of Lightroom is dependent on machine in my experience. Â My Dell at home is slow, slow, slow. My HP/Compaq mobile laptop that I travel with is faster. I haven't tried Lightroom on a MAC yet. Â Agree about closing out other aps, especially on the older computer (the Dell). It's slow as molasses if I don't. Â Â Actually the main error is NOT use a computer with an integrated graphics card! Get a separate video card. It makes all the difference in the world. Why shoot 50 MB RAW files only to squeeze it through a cheapo 8MB integrated graphics card? Not smart! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dhsimmonds Posted October 16, 2006 Share #17 Â Posted October 16, 2006 I am totally frustrated with Lightroom B4. It has crashed 3 times on me, admittedly loading a large shoot of over 300 images. I reverted to C1 LE and it loaded perfectly all 300 odd images (total 5.3Gb). So I tried latest beta version of Silkypix 3, and that also loaded perfectly all 5.3Gb of the same shoot and both programs were then able to develop all the images that I chose out of the shoot without any problem. Â Silkypix 3 also uses a black background which makes it look and feel very similar to Lightroom, except that it works and it works quite quickly as does C1 of course. Â I think that Adobe have a very real problem with their Lightroom product, for use with Windows XP anyway. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
stunsworth Posted October 16, 2006 Share #18 Â Posted October 16, 2006 Actually the main error is NOT use a computer with an integrated graphics card! Get a separate video card. It makes all the difference in the world. Why shoot 50 MB RAW files only to squeeze it through a cheapo 8MB integrated graphics card? Not smart! You're not saying that the memory on the graphics card has to match the size of the file are you? Surely the image is rendered to fit the designated screen resolution by the graphic application/OS? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
rosuna Posted October 16, 2006 Share #19 Â Posted October 16, 2006 Does Capture One allows for sidecar files which include the changes made to the RAW like Lightroom and Aperture? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
john_j Posted October 16, 2006 Share #20 Â Posted October 16, 2006 Hi- Â I find Beta 4 to be much faster than 3 on my PC.It still seems a bit quarky at times but it is in beta. Â As far as start up is concerned, I have nothing in my start up menu and just the volume control, USB hardware indicator and clock in the tray. All of ths kills resources! I go to Start,Run, msconfig and uncheck everything in the start up tab. I do not want anything loading until I need it. My AVG virus scan works on email and updates when opening the computer each day. Other than that, that's it. Â Best, Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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