thehouseflogger Posted December 17, 2008 Share #1 Posted December 17, 2008 Advertisement (gone after registration) ......because lots of members have advocated that Capture 1 handles the raw files differently to LR. Please could members list their preferences - does C1 do a better job ? I have never spent any time fiddling around with profiles/ for software so I think that I need to pay attention to this. Can anybody help me with what profiles I will need for LR if I go on using it, and similarily with C1. So C1 v LR ? Thanks to all and hoping you have a very happy and relaxingly chilled and bubbly Christmas! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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stunsworth Posted December 17, 2008 Share #2 Posted December 17, 2008 I hated C1. It was probably the most frustrating software I've ever used. An interface from hell, and it leaves files all over the place. I could never work out how to do anything It lasted about a week on my hard drive - which probably means I didn't give it a chance, and I accept that's probably my loss. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
carstenw Posted December 17, 2008 Share #3 Posted December 17, 2008 I am a Lightroom owner, but also consider Capture One due to its better colours, noise handling, profiles, white balance and sharpening. The pros I know tend towards C1. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
george + Posted December 17, 2008 Share #4 Posted December 17, 2008 It took a while to get used to. But it feels perfectly natural now, much more (to me anyway) than the one in PSCS3. And the colours are great. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
delander † Posted December 17, 2008 Share #5 Posted December 17, 2008 It lasted about a week on my hard drive - which probably means I didn't give it a chance, and I accept that's probably my loss. We all have a tendency to do this with new software. Phase One dont make it easy for you, the software can be buggy, it adds folders to folders and the help file is half finished. I persevered and find it to give the best conversions to 16-bit tiffs in terms of colour and sharpness. I like the use of profiles for the various types of cameras. I dont have LR but do have ACR/PSCS3. With C1 it seems so much quicker/easier to get an excellent result. In its latest form V4.5 it does take a lot of resources and renders fully focused previews at all magnifications. I'd say give it a try but spend time with it. Jeff Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wparsonsgisnet Posted December 17, 2008 Share #6 Posted December 17, 2008 Guy, I moved to C1 when the M8 arrived and have learned to like it a lot. The w/b is fantastic, especially when I've got a WhiBal card in one of the images, but it's great all the time. I can process about 100 images an hour from a job. I like that a lot. I'm still using the LE version, but have now used up my available upgrades and may go to the pro version next time. I believe Jamie, Sean, and the other Guy use it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
thehouseflogger Posted December 17, 2008 Author Share #7 Posted December 17, 2008 Advertisement (gone after registration) Thank you to all I have a Disc which I bought about two years ago so I will see what happens, - i remeber that I did not give it enough time last time also I recollect that it wasnt that fast. I will report back Guy ! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
spylaw4 Posted December 17, 2008 Share #8 Posted December 17, 2008 Are you using LR2? Or rather now 2.2. the DNG Profile Editor gives you a lot more flexibility in RAW conversion. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
thehouseflogger Posted December 17, 2008 Author Share #9 Posted December 17, 2008 LR 2.2 I havent got into the editors as they looked a bit scary ! Could you give me a very potted guide to what to do - I would be so grateful Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
delander † Posted December 17, 2008 Share #10 Posted December 17, 2008 Thank you to all I have a Disc which I bought about two years ago so I will see what happens, - i remeber that I did not give it enough time last time also I recollect that it wasnt that fast. I will report back Guy ! Download the latest version from the Phaseone website and use the serial number/code that came with the disc to activate it. If your disc is 2 years old that version (3.7 etc) does not bear much relationship to the current version. Jeff PS some prefer the older version by the way. Me not. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Max Alfy Posted December 17, 2008 Share #11 Posted December 17, 2008 As an amateur, I shoot only DNG and use C1 which is free, easy and excellent. It also means that I have no need to spend §§§ upgrading from my old CS2, which is used practically only for final editing, sizing and printing using actions. Max Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shootist Posted December 18, 2008 Share #12 Posted December 18, 2008 Never like C1. I have done many images with both C1 and all versions of ACR from 3.x to the most current 5.2 and really don't see any advantage using C1. In fact I like the images I get from ACR/PS better the I do using C1/PS. Others say it is better, I don't see it on screen or in print. I still have the latest version of C1 install on one of my computers and ever now and then, mostly when I new version of C1 comes out, I try to use it and compare the same images done in both program and then I just close down C1 and go back to using ACR. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
thompsonkirk Posted December 18, 2008 Share #13 Posted December 18, 2008 Both LR/ACR & C1 make good conversions, & you can minimize the differences in Photoshop. But when I try both, I usually prefer the C1 conversion. I use ACR for my workprints & webwork, because I like the interface better; but more often a C1 re-conversion for fine printing, using their DNG Neutral profile. When I compare the 2 versions in a soft-proofed print, C1 usually wins, especially when dealing with strong reds. Realtor asked also about LR/ACR custom profiles. In the download, as I recall, there's a very specific tutorial. You just follow it blindly & it works without much difficulty. Just remember that the first part is presupposed by some of the later instructions, which might be misconstrued as free-standing. When using ACR/LR, I'm not attracted to the Adobe Beta 1 or 2 Leica profiles & so have used the custom profiler, even for individual lenses. (I like old lenses, which are greener than the newer, warmer ones. This equalizes them pretty well. Also my 21 Biogon, & a 25 CV that I use as a beater lens - & which sometimes is off in the blues.) My custom profiles have come out closer to Adobe's 4.4 than to the new Beta ones. When I mentioned using ACR/LR above, I meant with the custom profiles. But much of the time, C1 with the DNG Neutral profile (not the Leica profiles!) gives as good or better results compared to the custom ones. The fellow who made the Adobe Beta profiles admitted on a Luminous Landscape forum that he aimed at their being pleasing instead of neutral. This means some folks will agree with his taste, & others (like me) won't. Just one person's experience/taste, Kirk Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marquinius Posted December 18, 2008 Share #14 Posted December 18, 2008 Sudden urges: I have a strong tendency to sit down and wait until they have passed (apart from some bodily urges ). What amazes me is that no one asks "why?". I mean: you state that you have not yet fiddled with the knobs and buttons of LR. Why would another program deliver better results, as you'll have to learn those knobs and buttons as well before you can make any comparison. In the end the software DOES matter, but IMHO only after having mastered the controls and then only after having mastered the camera. Whatever choice you make: stick with THAT program and spend time with it. Marco Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kasimir Posted December 18, 2008 Share #15 Posted December 18, 2008 I hated C1. It was probably the most frustrating software I've ever used. An interface from hell, and it leaves files all over the place. I could never work out how to do anything It lasted about a week on my hard drive - which probably means I didn't give it a chance, and I accept that's probably my loss. Which version did You try? I started with 4.1 and found it more userfriendly than any adobe software. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morten Grathe Posted December 20, 2008 Share #16 Posted December 20, 2008 I think that both LR and C1 makes good conversions. I prefer the workflow and functionality of LR, but i think that C1 gives slightly better imagequality. Normally i use LR, but at some weddings the grooms suit gets terrible moire with the Leica M8. The moirefilter in C1 PRO is a real lifesaver. In a camera this expensive the C1 PRO should be standard. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gtownby Posted December 20, 2008 Share #17 Posted December 20, 2008 Guy - I know that you did not ask about Apple Aperture, but LFI has compared its RAW processing very favorably to Capture One. And the interface blows away both C1 and LR. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
pleeson Posted December 24, 2008 Share #18 Posted December 24, 2008 Guy -I know that you did not ask about Apple Aperture, but LFI has compared its RAW processing very favorably to Capture One. And the interface blows away both C1 and LR. Agreed. And it runs on OSX easily,unlike C1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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