pemayeux Posted October 11, 2006 Share #1 Posted October 11, 2006 Advertisement (gone after registration) I know I've seen this discussed before, however, a search has produced no information. What R lens will work with the 5D? Thank you, Paul Mayeux. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Advertisement Posted October 11, 2006 Posted October 11, 2006 Hi pemayeux, Take a look here Leica lens for 5D?. I'm sure you'll find what you were looking for!
TimF Posted October 11, 2006 Share #2 Posted October 11, 2006 Yes, I'd like to know that too. I did see this link (scroll down about 1/3rd of the page) to a page Guy Mancuso was supposed to have put up with this info, but it leads to a dead end. It'd certainly be nice to see the list. The notes by Doug Herr below this bit are useful nonetheless. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guy_mancuso Posted October 11, 2006 Share #3 Posted October 11, 2006 Paul tell me any lens and i have the answer. Now certain ones will NOT work without modifying the rear shroud or what I did shave the mirror than they all work. 15 2.8 Mirror mod only 19.28 This is a heavy filing of the shroud and gets real cose or does get into the retaining ring. But it has been done many times 28 2.8 on some bodies yes and some now. Canon crap manufacturing 50mm 1.4 lux newest need to remove rubber on shroud 21-35 need to remove plastic shroud 28-90 Mirror mod only 35-70 2.8 and if you have this lens, marry me. LOL Mirror mod only 35 1.4 Mirror mod 85 1.4 Mirror mod That is all I can remmeber . If your serious about Leica glass and have a few , no question attack the mirror. You start modify very expensive glass than you really have devalued the lens. Mirror mods can be replaced by canon if wanted for several hundred dollars. i immeditedly sent mine to a friend to shave the mirror and no ill effects with any Canon lens except maybe did not try it the 600mm were you may get some cutoff. This needs to be a sticky somewhere Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jrgeoffrion Posted October 11, 2006 Share #4 Posted October 11, 2006 I know I've seen this discussed before, however, a search has produced no information. What R lens will work with the 5D? Thank you, Paul Mayeux. Paul, Here is what you are looking for: Leica Blog Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
albertwang Posted October 11, 2006 Share #5 Posted October 11, 2006 Canon crap manufacturing Woohoo! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
pemayeux Posted October 11, 2006 Author Share #6 Posted October 11, 2006 Thank you all. Guy - I'm interested in putting a '35 Summilux on the 5D. Something to tie me over until the M8 arrives. Thanks again, Paul Mayeux. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guy_mancuso Posted October 11, 2006 Share #7 Posted October 11, 2006 Advertisement (gone after registration) Bad news there , that is a mirror mod. The Lux lenses the rear end sticks out pretty far and not even sure you can mount it without hitting the mirror. The Cron yes Wanna buy a DMR . LOL Just joking can't list sale items Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
pemayeux Posted October 11, 2006 Author Share #8 Posted October 11, 2006 I should have bought a DMR way back, but nooooooooo I had to wait on the M8. The 5D has served "ok", much better than the D2 I had, but the arrival of the M8 is giving me causing me great anxiety. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nemeng Posted October 11, 2006 Share #9 Posted October 11, 2006 BTW the direct link Guy's lens table in the FAQ is at: leica.nemeng.com/002f.shtml#mirror I've just updated the page with the current URL. (Sigh. I do wish people would (a) get a proper website and ( stop moving things around!) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
stunsworth Posted October 12, 2006 Share #10 Posted October 12, 2006 Paul, also bear in mind that the 5D will overexpose with a non-coupled Leica lens fitted. I dial in -1 stop of compensation to counter this. The overexposure also changes - the more you stop down the lens, the greater the overexposure. 1 stop compensation seems a good compromise. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
zapp Posted October 12, 2006 Share #11 Posted October 12, 2006 Paul tell me any lens and i have the answer. Now certain ones will NOT work without modifying the rear shroud or what I did shave the mirror than they all work. 19.28 This needs to be a sticky somewhere My 2 cents here. The 5D may have a smaller mirror than the EOS1xy based EOS digitla cameras. With a full frame mirror that reflects close to 100% you will need to shave the mirror with the 19mm lens or you may only focus from close up to 2m. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guy_mancuso Posted October 12, 2006 Share #12 Posted October 12, 2006 Not so sure it has a smaller mirror than the 1ds or 1dsMKKI , the same lens that works on the 1dsMKII do NOT work on the 5D .Mirror size or more swing out of the mirror on the way down could also cause this. The 19mm is a tough cookie the shaving of the shroud for the 19mm and 5d get's very close to the element. The same lens on a 1dsMKKII needs less of a shave . Frankly shaving the replaceable 5d is really the way to go. it will be replaced in 18 months compared to a Leica lens that will last your lifetime. I have done both and i recommend the mirror . Sounds cruel i know but really the best option. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sean_reid Posted October 12, 2006 Share #13 Posted October 12, 2006 Not so sure it has a smaller mirror than the 1ds or 1dsMKKI , the same lens that works on the 1dsMKII do NOT work on the 5D .Mirror size or more swing out of the mirror on the way down could also cause this. The 19mm is a tough cookie the shaving of the shroud for the 19mm and 5d get's very close to the element. The same lens on a 1dsMKKII needs less of a shave . Frankly shaving the replaceable 5d is really the way to go. it will be replaced in 18 months compared to a Leica lens that will last your lifetime. I have done both and i recommend the mirror . Sounds cruel i know but really the best option. Guy is very knowledgeable about these combinations and has done a lot of experimenting - a great resource for answering these questions. A follow-up resource with lots of information (some of it from Guy) is the "Alternate..." forum at Fred Miranda which is at: Alternative Digital Systems & Lenses - FM Forums Cheers, Sean Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
biglouis Posted October 12, 2006 Share #14 Posted October 12, 2006 This may be a dumb addition to this thread but I'll post it anyway. There is discussion about wanting to use the 5D with a Leica lens until the M8 is available. I sense a view that an M8 is an alternative to a (D)SLR. Surely, these are two entirely different beasts? Can anyone expect to replace the functionality of a (D)SLR with a (D)rangefinder camera? Wouldn't a DSLR user do better to consider a R8/9 with a DMR than consider 'upgrading' to the M8? I mean, the handling and even the usability of a DSLR versus a Rangefinder is a lot different, isn't it? Idle thoughts on my part but I'm confused about the expectations in this thread. LouisB Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
stunsworth Posted October 12, 2006 Share #15 Posted October 12, 2006 Louis I agree with you, the problem for me was that when I bought the 5D I didn't have an R8, so going down the DMR route would have cost omore than twice that of buying a 5D. Now that I _do_ have an R8 of course I wish I had a DMR :-) However the M8 is what I really want. Good as the 5D and DMR are, for lenses up to 90mm I prefer a rangefinder. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamie Roberts Posted October 13, 2006 Share #16 Posted October 13, 2006 Paul--all good info. I have a new 5d as a backup for my DMR and 1ds2. Here's what I found with it... Basically, all the crons and Elmarits work out of the box, except the 19mm. You need to mod the lens or shave the mirror, as Guy said. I was ok with: 28 Elmarit R 35 Summicron 50 Summicron (older Canadian version) 100 APO Macro Elmarit 180 APO 2.8 Elmarit None of the Summiluxes I own (35, 50, 80) would focus wide open properly with the 5d, and, as Guy said, the 35 even slaps the stock mirror. But I have no idea why these lenses won't focus properly--they work just fine on the 1ds2 (and of course they're great on my DMR). So something is very funky in the 5D EOS mount diffferences there. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guy_mancuso Posted October 13, 2006 Share #17 Posted October 13, 2006 This may be a dumb addition to this thread but I'll post it anyway. There is discussion about wanting to use the 5D with a Leica lens until the M8 is available. I sense a view that an M8 is an alternative to a (D)SLR. Surely, these are two entirely different beasts? Can anyone expect to replace the functionality of a (D)SLR with a (D)rangefinder camera? Wouldn't a DSLR user do better to consider a R8/9 with a DMR than consider 'upgrading' to the M8? I mean, the handling and even the usability of a DSLR versus a Rangefinder is a lot different, isn't it? Idle thoughts on my part but I'm confused about the expectations in this thread. LouisB Very true and different beasts for different types of work also. I personally will have both but the most expansive system is the DSLR and you can do almost anything with it. The RF system will have it's limitations but it will also have some advantages. Weight and size of course but working silently and discretely the RF wins. I been down that road with the Leica glass on Canon bodies and sure it works and get to use the best glass around but it is a hassle and also your missing out on the fine qualities of the DMR sensor and dedicated lenses. But many folks may not need a DSLR all the time and a RF system is a way to go. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
albertwang Posted October 13, 2006 Share #18 Posted October 13, 2006 With all of the lens shaving and mirror slapping, the trusty old E-1 works better. NO mods necessary... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guy_mancuso Posted October 13, 2006 Share #19 Posted October 13, 2006 Albert someone said that we can take our lenses from the R and use them on one of the Leica V-lux systems i think. Not sure which it was but there is a interesting option Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
albertwang Posted October 13, 2006 Share #20 Posted October 13, 2006 Yes, the Digilux 3 will take the R lenses with the 4/3 adapter. I'm most excited to try out Leica's version of the adapter. Hopefully some electronic contacts for focusing confirmation will be in it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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