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Yes, I'd like to know that too.

 

I did see this link (scroll down about 1/3rd of the page) to a page Guy Mancuso was supposed to have put up with this info, but it leads to a dead end. It'd certainly be nice to see the list.

 

The notes by Doug Herr below this bit are useful nonetheless.

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Paul tell me any lens and i have the answer. Now certain ones will NOT work without modifying the rear shroud or what I did shave the mirror than they all work.

 

15 2.8 Mirror mod only

19.28 This is a heavy filing of the shroud and gets real cose or does get into the retaining ring. But it has been done many times

28 2.8 on some bodies yes and some now. Canon crap manufacturing

50mm 1.4 lux newest need to remove rubber on shroud

21-35 need to remove plastic shroud

28-90 Mirror mod only

35-70 2.8 and if you have this lens, marry me. LOL Mirror mod only

35 1.4 Mirror mod

85 1.4 Mirror mod

 

That is all I can remmeber . If your serious about Leica glass and have a few , no question attack the mirror. You start modify very expensive glass than you really have devalued the lens. Mirror mods can be replaced by canon if wanted for several hundred dollars. i immeditedly sent mine to a friend to shave the mirror and no ill effects with any Canon lens except maybe did not try it the 600mm were you may get some cutoff.

 

This needs to be a sticky somewhere

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Bad news there , that is a mirror mod. The Lux lenses the rear end sticks out pretty far and not even sure you can mount it without hitting the mirror. The Cron yes

 

Wanna buy a DMR . LOL Just joking can't list sale items

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Paul, also bear in mind that the 5D will overexpose with a non-coupled Leica lens fitted. I dial in -1 stop of compensation to counter this. The overexposure also changes - the more you stop down the lens, the greater the overexposure. 1 stop compensation seems a good compromise.

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Paul tell me any lens and i have the answer. Now certain ones will NOT work without modifying the rear shroud or what I did shave the mirror than they all work.

 

19.28

This needs to be a sticky somewhere

 

My 2 cents here. The 5D may have a smaller mirror than the EOS1xy based EOS digitla cameras. With a full frame mirror that reflects close to 100% you will need to shave the mirror with the 19mm lens or you may only focus from close up to 2m.

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Not so sure it has a smaller mirror than the 1ds or 1dsMKKI , the same lens that works on the 1dsMKII do NOT work on the 5D .Mirror size or more swing out of the mirror on the way down could also cause this. The 19mm is a tough cookie the shaving of the shroud for the 19mm and 5d get's very close to the element. The same lens on a 1dsMKKII needs less of a shave . Frankly shaving the replaceable 5d is really the way to go. it will be replaced in 18 months compared to a Leica lens that will last your lifetime. I have done both and i recommend the mirror . Sounds cruel i know but really the best option.

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Not so sure it has a smaller mirror than the 1ds or 1dsMKKI , the same lens that works on the 1dsMKII do NOT work on the 5D .Mirror size or more swing out of the mirror on the way down could also cause this. The 19mm is a tough cookie the shaving of the shroud for the 19mm and 5d get's very close to the element. The same lens on a 1dsMKKII needs less of a shave . Frankly shaving the replaceable 5d is really the way to go. it will be replaced in 18 months compared to a Leica lens that will last your lifetime. I have done both and i recommend the mirror . Sounds cruel i know but really the best option.

 

Guy is very knowledgeable about these combinations and has done a lot of experimenting - a great resource for answering these questions. A follow-up resource with lots of information (some of it from Guy) is the "Alternate..." forum at Fred Miranda which is at:

 

Alternative Digital Systems & Lenses - FM Forums

 

Cheers,

 

Sean

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This may be a dumb addition to this thread but I'll post it anyway. There is discussion about wanting to use the 5D with a Leica lens until the M8 is available. I sense a view that an M8 is an alternative to a (D)SLR.

 

Surely, these are two entirely different beasts? Can anyone expect to replace the functionality of a (D)SLR with a (D)rangefinder camera?

 

Wouldn't a DSLR user do better to consider a R8/9 with a DMR than consider 'upgrading' to the M8? I mean, the handling and even the usability of a DSLR versus a Rangefinder is a lot different, isn't it?

 

Idle thoughts on my part but I'm confused about the expectations in this thread.

 

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Louis I agree with you, the problem for me was that when I bought the 5D I didn't have an R8, so going down the DMR route would have cost omore than twice that of buying a 5D. Now that I _do_ have an R8 of course I wish I had a DMR :-)

 

However the M8 is what I really want. Good as the 5D and DMR are, for lenses up to 90mm I prefer a rangefinder.

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Paul--all good info. I have a new 5d as a backup for my DMR and 1ds2. Here's what I found with it...

 

Basically, all the crons and Elmarits work out of the box, except the 19mm. You need to mod the lens or shave the mirror, as Guy said.

 

I was ok with:

 

28 Elmarit R

35 Summicron

50 Summicron (older Canadian version)

100 APO Macro Elmarit

180 APO 2.8 Elmarit

 

None of the Summiluxes I own (35, 50, 80) would focus wide open properly with the 5d, and, as Guy said, the 35 even slaps the stock mirror.

 

But I have no idea why these lenses won't focus properly--they work just fine on the 1ds2 (and of course they're great on my DMR). So something is very funky in the 5D EOS mount diffferences there.

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This may be a dumb addition to this thread but I'll post it anyway. There is discussion about wanting to use the 5D with a Leica lens until the M8 is available. I sense a view that an M8 is an alternative to a (D)SLR.

 

Surely, these are two entirely different beasts? Can anyone expect to replace the functionality of a (D)SLR with a (D)rangefinder camera?

 

Wouldn't a DSLR user do better to consider a R8/9 with a DMR than consider 'upgrading' to the M8? I mean, the handling and even the usability of a DSLR versus a Rangefinder is a lot different, isn't it?

 

Idle thoughts on my part but I'm confused about the expectations in this thread.

 

LouisB

 

 

Very true and different beasts for different types of work also. I personally will have both but the most expansive system is the DSLR and you can do almost anything with it. The RF system will have it's limitations but it will also have some advantages. Weight and size of course but working silently and discretely the RF wins.

 

I been down that road with the Leica glass on Canon bodies and sure it works and get to use the best glass around but it is a hassle and also your missing out on the fine qualities of the DMR sensor and dedicated lenses. But many folks may not need a DSLR all the time and a RF system is a way to go.

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Albert someone said that we can take our lenses from the R and use them on one of the Leica V-lux systems i think. Not sure which it was but there is a interesting option

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