abrewer Posted November 3, 2008 Share #1 Posted November 3, 2008 Advertisement (gone after registration) Watch this space! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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robsteve Posted November 3, 2008 Share #2 Posted November 3, 2008 Watch this space! You obviously didn't take the film to a one hour shop I would be interest in how well this film scans. Robert Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
abrewer Posted November 4, 2008 Author Share #3 Posted November 4, 2008 Actually I did, but I just got home from work! Scans are really good, Rob; colors very, very nice too Take a look Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/67334-new-kodak-ektar-100-shots-coming/?do=findComment&comment=704234'>More sharing options...
abrewer Posted November 4, 2008 Author Share #4 Posted November 4, 2008 Couple more Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/67334-new-kodak-ektar-100-shots-coming/?do=findComment&comment=704246'>More sharing options...
sdai Posted November 4, 2008 Share #5 Posted November 4, 2008 Are these print scans or negative scans? judging from the colors of foliage, it's pretty close to NPS. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
35photo Posted November 5, 2008 Share #6 Posted November 5, 2008 If you go on my site 35 Photo Splash the second photograph from the top called "Red" is Ektar 100. It really is a nice film, great to scan, grain is super tight, I would say go for skin tones. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
andybarton Posted November 5, 2008 Share #7 Posted November 5, 2008 Advertisement (gone after registration) How does it scan at home, rather than on an Agfa or Fuji processor? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Photoskeptic Posted November 6, 2008 Share #8 Posted November 6, 2008 Allan, I liked the first shot. However, the landscapes looked flat and decidedly ho-hum. My opinion, only . Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
abrewer Posted November 6, 2008 Author Share #9 Posted November 6, 2008 These are neg scans from roll print film, made on a Kodak processor at the time of processing Have to agree with you, John, about the landscapes I think it's a combination of the light, the lack of color generally in our fall foliage this year and the palate of the film--not as punchy as the UC100 I have been using Can't beat the lack of grain, though Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nikau Posted November 6, 2008 Share #10 Posted November 6, 2008 Allan, I liked the first shot. However, the landscapes looked flat and decidedly ho-hum. My opinion, only . But 30 seconds in Photoshop brought them to life. I'm certainly keen to try some Ektar. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
boilerdoc Posted November 6, 2008 Share #11 Posted November 6, 2008 Allan: I just got 6 rolls from Freestyle. Loading up in the M7 for a test drive over the next few days. I wish this was available in 120! Steve Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
abrewer Posted November 6, 2008 Author Share #12 Posted November 6, 2008 But 30 seconds in Photoshop brought them to life. Well, yeah, I can do that too But I'm becoming more inclined to just let the picture be what it is without all the manipulation Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
abrewer Posted November 6, 2008 Author Share #13 Posted November 6, 2008 Allan: I just got 6 rolls from Freestyle. Loading up in the M7 for a test drive over the next few days. I wish this was available in 120!Steve Hey, Steve! I saw your message and was thinking the Speedway Museum would be a good place to test this film some more. Color in Brown County (where I shot the landscsapes) wasn't much this year. The yellows were there but not much orangey/red foliage, and lots of dry, brown grass as you can see. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sarsails Posted November 6, 2008 Share #14 Posted November 6, 2008 Hi there! A few more pictures made with the Kodak Ektar 100 from Germany . Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/67334-new-kodak-ektar-100-shots-coming/?do=findComment&comment=706370'>More sharing options...
abrewer Posted November 6, 2008 Author Share #15 Posted November 6, 2008 Welcome Stefanie! Nice shots. Looks like your results are similar...colors are more natural, not so hyped-up as the UC100 was I find the look very appealing We need to get some people shots with this film and see how skin tones look. I think they will probably be very pleasant. So, I think I'll start an "I love my Ektar!" thread.... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sarsails Posted November 6, 2008 Share #16 Posted November 6, 2008 Thank you Allan! You're right, the colors are natural but still great! I love this new Ektar . Haven't taken any people shots yet, just nature and architecture. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
35photo Posted November 8, 2008 Share #17 Posted November 8, 2008 Here is an photograph from Ektar 100. Marko Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/67334-new-kodak-ektar-100-shots-coming/?do=findComment&comment=708812'>More sharing options...
Photoskeptic Posted November 8, 2008 Share #18 Posted November 8, 2008 I went the B&H website to see about this film and Kodak says "ultra-vivid color". I suppose this is Kodak's latest response to Fuji. I actually like it. But do I really, really want to shoot color print film again? If it scans okay, then maybe. I would like to hear from others who shoot this and their scanning experiences, also which scanner they use. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
35photo Posted November 8, 2008 Share #19 Posted November 8, 2008 I went the B&H website to see about this film and Kodak says "ultra-vivid color". I suppose this is Kodak's latest response to Fuji. I actually like it. But do I really, really want to shoot color print film again? If it scans okay, then maybe. I would like to hear from others who shoot this and their scanning experiences, also which scanner they use. The best Neg film I've ever scanned! Marko Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
svante Posted November 8, 2008 Share #20 Posted November 8, 2008 Ektar100 scans beautifully! The pictures below were taken a week ago in a pale yellow setting sun (at 2.00 pm!) with a M7 and a 35mm Summilux ASPH. The first picture is (apart for mild output sharpening) a completely unadjusted output file made with a Minolta DSE v1 scanner and Vuescan. The second picture is a scan of a 10x15cm print made by my local, rather good, one-hour lab. The screen version is an accurate representation of the print. The third picture shows actual pixels from the 5400dpi scan I made with Vuescan. No sharpening is applied in the latter case. The print is a little bit too contrasty and saturated for my taste, while the opposite is true for the output from the scanner. Getting flat scans from negatives is not a bad thing as it allows you to use curves adjustments in Photoshop to suit your taste. In summary I think that good scanner software, like Vuescan, will handle the color balance of the film easily and that the grain structure is at least as good as any other comparable film. Ektar is now my first choice for a slow negative color film. More detailed ponderings about the film are found below, but as I have only shot one roll I reserve the right to change my mind. J Resolution My standard test for resolution is to shoot a two-page spread of mutual fund quotes from the second section of the Financial Times with the 50mm Summilux Asph and then inspect the results with a 10x loupe on the light table. Doing this I find that the resolution of the Ektar is slightly behind films like Fuji Acros, Tmax 100, and E100G. The ordinary newsprint is perfectly legible, but the smaller fonts that are marginal in the other films are not. The difference is not of practical importance unless you intend to use Ektar as a substitute for micro film though. Sharpness Sharpness depends on the resolution of the film but also on acutance (edge sharpness). The MTF charts provided by Kodak in the data sheets indicate that Ektar should have higher acutance than e.g. E100G as the transfer function for Ektar is higher, in fact exceeding 100 percent up to 20 cycles/mm. I can not see this, neither on the light table nor in the scanned results. I judge the sharpness of Ektar to be slightly lower than E100G. Again this has little practical significance, at least in the digital darkroom where you will apply different degrees of sharpening before final output. Grain Kodak says: ”KODAK PROFESSIONAL EKTACHROME Film E100G is one of the finest grain, color reversal films in the world today. Due to differences in measurement conditions, a direct comparison of EKTAR 100 and E100G Films is not possible. However, if you scan images shot on the two films and then print enlargements for a visual comparison, you will see that the grain of EKTAR 100 Film is as good or better than that of E100G.” I agree. The grain of Ektar is very fine and it also has a very good structure for scanning. The structure is not only pleasant as it is, it also responds very well to grain reduction software such as Neat Image. In the third image below you can see actual pixels from my scan. The grain in the sky is very fine. In the midtones and shadows the grain becomes more visible, but it is still better than any other negative film I know of. I would say that you should be able to print the full image as a 40x60cm print at 300dpi and you would not see very much grain at all. Latitude Kodak claims that the film can be exposed from -1 to +2. That is probable true if you are willing to accept some degradation of the results. Some ISO400 C-41 films, notably Ilford XP2, have an enormous latitude for overexposure that makes me think that they actually benefit from being exposed at EI200 or even EI100. This is not the case with Ektar. Exposing the film at EI25 I see a clear degradation of both resolution and color. It is interesting to note that the exposure recommendations for different light conditions given by Kodak in the datasheet seems to indicate that the film has a nominal speed of ISO64 or 80 when compared to the “sunny 16-rule”. For now I think that the film is best exposed at EI100 or only slightly below, and that the greater latitude compared to slide film is best exploited to bring out detail the shadow and highlight areas. Colour and contrast Kodak indicate that Ektar 100 has very high colour saturation and medium contrast. I have never been able to make sense of such statements with respect to negative film. When you are comparing slide films you have a well defined point of reference – you put your films through the E-6 process (well defined) and the results are ready for comparison on the light table. With negative film that has gone through the C-41 process (well defined) you must apply filtering in the analog darkroom or curves adjustments in the digital darkroom in order to produce a useable picture. Unless the post chemical development adjustments are well defined you have no basis for comparison. The prints produced by the lab, presumably using profiles for the Portra family, came out quite saturated. This might be the basis for Kodak’s claim. On the other hand, when you scan yourself and try to preserve the full tonal scale of the negatives you are left with results that are flat (low contrast) and not saturated at all. In this respect Ektar resembles any other negative color film. How saturated the final result is then becomes a question about how much you tweak the colors after the scan. My speculation, but this is only speculation without any scientific measurements to back it up, is that Ektar is capable of reproducing a quite wide color space and that the resolution within that color space is very fine. My basis for this speculation is that when I photographed an it8 target the separation between fields, in areas where I have trouble seeing differences looking at the actual target, came out very well on film. I guess that in order to capture the full color-space resolution you should work in a wide color space. I have seen complaints about the shadows becoming very blue in the Ektar. It is true that they are, and if you adjust a picture taken under overcast conditions using the same settings as for a picture from a sunny day you will also get very blue results. I don’t think this is a fault of the film but rather a result of high color fidelity. The shadow really is blue! Does it scan well? With respect to grain it scans better than any other film on my equipment. I could not see any “pepper grain” either. With respect to color it is no worse than any other negative film, but as always you have to apply more post scanning work than when scanning slide film Overall verdict I think Ektar100 is the best slow color negative film available. My previous favourite was Fuji Reala 100 but Ektar100 wins hands down. Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/67334-new-kodak-ektar-100-shots-coming/?do=findComment&comment=709242'>More sharing options...
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