alexc Posted October 27, 2008 Share #1 Posted October 27, 2008 Advertisement (gone after registration) I used d-lux 3 for a long time and had no problems importing files to iphoto through card reader. Just upgraded to d-lux 4 and tried to import files (RAW) to Iphoto, blank screen. when I directly accessed files on the card the files are shown with the extension - RWL. These files are not accepted by photoshop. Can somebody clarify. Thank you in advance. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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nostatic Posted October 27, 2008 Share #2 Posted October 27, 2008 You probably will need to use the software that came with the camera. I believe that none of the 3rd party applications can deal with the raw files yet. If they used DNG you could use the generic system profile. But they didn't. Convert the raw files using the included software, then import the jpegs into iPhoto. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
alexc Posted October 27, 2008 Author Share #3 Posted October 27, 2008 Thank you for your note. this is a surprise. looks like I have to learn C1 now. Does this mean than I can not use ACR? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
marcoshark Posted October 28, 2008 Share #4 Posted October 28, 2008 Alex, Could you use Adobe’s RAW convertor will do the job and turn them into DNG’s. iPhoto will handle those? Regards Marc Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
alexc Posted October 28, 2008 Author Share #5 Posted October 28, 2008 Marc, I never used adobe raw convertor. where do I get it? on adobe site. I think if i manage to convert files to dng they will open in iphoto. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
alexc Posted October 28, 2008 Author Share #6 Posted October 28, 2008 No Marc, I tried Adobe DNG convertor, it does not accept d-lux 4 raw files. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nostatic Posted October 28, 2008 Share #7 Posted October 28, 2008 Advertisement (gone after registration) if C1 is what came with the camera, then yes, you need to learn/use that until Apple updates their system/app to deal with the file format. Big thanks to Panaleica for using yet another proprietary format. Maybe for the next one they'll change the USB cable as well to use the Konfabulous Zonkulator adapter, only available at 3 shops worldwide for one MILLLLIONNNN DOLLARZZZ. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
alexc Posted October 28, 2008 Author Share #8 Posted October 28, 2008 the problem is not only adobe. I can not use iphoto as well. my workflow both with M8 and d-lux 3 was to import to iphoto process in ACR and use photoshop for final adjustments if needed. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
miami91 Posted October 28, 2008 Share #9 Posted October 28, 2008 the problem is not only adobe. I can not use iphoto as well. my workflow both with M8 and d-lux 3 was to import to iphoto process in ACR and use photoshop for final adjustments if needed. This is really not an unusual phenomenon, and one of many reasons why there's so much clamoring for adoption of a "universal" RAW standard like DNG. Most of the time a new camera with a proprietary RAW format is introduced, support in the major photo applications (PS/ACR, LR, Aperture, iPhoto, etc.) will lag behind a few weeks/months. Same is true for MacOS X itself (you won't see the file in the OS X finder until Apple updates OS X with support for the .RWL format). BTW, Capture One is not difficult to learn. Make use of the video tutorial they include on the CD and you'll be up and running in no time. I too look forward to Aperture support for the D-Lux 4 RAW file, but in the meantime using C1 is a minor inconvenience. Jeff. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
miami91 Posted October 28, 2008 Share #10 Posted October 28, 2008 Same is true for MacOS X itself (you won't see the file in the OS X finder until Apple updates OS X with support for the .RWL format). Just to clarify my own comment, what I mean by "see the file" is that you won't see it represented as an image file --- you won't see a preview thumbnail. Instead it's assigned a generic unix icon. Given that many applications (like iPhoto, Expression Media, maybe Aperture too?) use the underlying MacOS image engine to do the translation/display of a RAW file, the support in OS X is probably just as crucial to us Mac users as application support from Adobe. Jeff. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
alexc Posted October 28, 2008 Author Share #11 Posted October 28, 2008 Jeff, thank you for your comments. I think it came as a surprise to me because I never had any problems with leica files both in iphoto and photoshop. I used Digilux2, d-lux 3, M8 with no issues. What I will do is use C1 and convert files to DNG so I can work with them in ACR and use Iphoto. it is not that i do not like C1, for what I do ACR is much simpler for me to use or may be it is just the matter of habit. Thank you again, Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jfgilbert Posted October 28, 2008 Share #12 Posted October 28, 2008 I would like to point out that this is not an issue specific to Leica. Every time a new camera comes out with a new raw format, the early adopters have to use the software included with the camera until Adobe, Apple, and other makers of raw converters release an update. For example, ACR 5.1, which was released Oct. 22nd, added support for a number of cameras (from Adobe site): Canon EOS 1000D (Digital Rebel XS/EOS Kiss F) Canon EOS 50D Fuji FinePix IS Pro Kodak EasyShare Kodak Z1015 IS Leaf AFi II 6 Leaf AFi II 7 Leaf Aptus II 6 Leaf Aptus II 7 Nikon D700 Nikon D90 Nikon Coolpix P6000 Olympus SP-565 UZ Pentax K2000 (K-m) Sigma DP1 Sony A900 The implication being that before Oct. 22, the raw files from these cameras were not readable in PS, LR, or ACR. There is, however, a Leica specific issue, and it is that Adobe and Apple, to name two, tend to take longer to include support for Leica cameras because of the relatively smaller market. Hope that helps, Jacques Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mhoersch Posted October 29, 2008 Share #13 Posted October 29, 2008 Big thanks to Panaleica for using yet another proprietary format. Maybe for the next one they'll change the USB cable as well to use the Konfabulous Zonkulator adapter, only available at 3 shops worldwide for one MILLLLIONNNN DOLLARZZZ. ...and by all means a proprietary memory card format that is only compatible with its own Frankenreader four times the size of the camera!!! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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