Don'tknowmuch Posted October 13, 2008 Share #41 Posted October 13, 2008 Advertisement (gone after registration) Oops; sorry. Wrong thread. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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iridium7777 Posted October 13, 2008 Share #42 Posted October 13, 2008 To me it's a matter of me doing the work vs the lab. I'd much rather not sit in front of a computer for hours and instead invest that time into other aspects of my business... can you please explain something to me? when you're working in film now, are you saying that every single picture needs no improvement (besides the obvious ones that you discard) and whatever the lab gives you for a scan is good enough for the customer? or, does the lab do adjustments for you and tweak the film scans to perfection? the reason i'm asking is i never use a pro lab (neither am i a pro photographer). for dim light situations or for higher iso films, i find that i need to tweak the scans that i get from walgreens/costco in order for them to look as intended. so essentially does the pro lab do all the work for you: develop film, scan, and manipulate to perfection? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Riccis Posted October 13, 2008 Share #43 Posted October 13, 2008 That's correct. The lab does all the work of developing, printing proofs according to my liking and scanning (which includes dust removing, etc...). All I have to do is edit out duplicates, out of focus, etc and upload to my online gallery. Hope this helps, Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
chris_livsey Posted October 13, 2008 Share #44 Posted October 13, 2008 That's why I'm disappointed with the M8.2. Some enhancements, a bug fix (framelines) but the same old sensor and same old dreary high ISO performance. Oh, and it costs 50% more than a D3... and around double what an M7 costs. Double In London a mint M7, with passport to 2012(dream of that for your M8) is £1350 and a mint black paint MP is £1590. Still cash left for a lens instead of an M8.2. The D700, with the ISO performance and full frame of the D3, is £1600. Leica was always a premium for assured quality and could command the premium, in the "disposable" digital world they have yet, IMHO as an M8 owner, still to deliver a body that meets that quality assured criteria. Lenses are excluded from the argument Having said that look at this:| the ultra wide angle lens Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
rob_x2004 Posted October 13, 2008 Share #45 Posted October 13, 2008 Riccis, in a slight aside, a while back you were divesting yoruself of a few ASPH lenses? Duplicates and redundant focal lengths, or are you finding the pre ASPH look more suited to your work? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Riccis Posted October 13, 2008 Share #46 Posted October 13, 2008 Rob - I sold a few redundant focal lengths (i.e. sold the 50 lux ASPH and kept the Nocti, also sold an extra 35 summi but I am yet to sell the 75 cron)... I also sold the 35 lux pre-ASPH since I was not into its look that much... After evaluating the new 21 and 24 lux, I'll make a decision and may even sell the 35 lux. My ultimate goal is to come to work with three M7s with the following options... -Wides (21, 24 or 35 lux) - I am actually leaning to the 24 as that was one of my favorite focal lengths with the old SLR -Normal (Noctilux) -Telephoto (90/2) My vision, style and approach to documenting weddings is all about simplicity and low profile. Cheers, Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Agent M10 Posted October 13, 2008 Share #47 Posted October 13, 2008 Advertisement (gone after registration) Riccis, Thanks for your comments. I had thought of buying a D700 as a stand-in to my F6, but your remarks reminded me of the headaches associated with sharpening, etc. So, we'll keep the F6 as our backup to our film Ms. If you are going to part with a 35 Summilux, give us a heads up. I could have used that lens last week. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NZDavid Posted October 14, 2008 Share #48 Posted October 14, 2008 Yes, part-time freelance. Because I like Leica results. Book coming out with Leica shots, all film. Just about excusively E6, otherwise occasionally Fuji 400H. Also use compact Ricoh digital. Leica digital may be worth considering professionally purely for economic reasons; addicted to slide film for personal pics. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Albert4321 Posted October 14, 2008 Author Share #49 Posted October 14, 2008 Albert - I use the Fuji Pro line for color (Pro 400H and 800Z) and love them...... Cheers, Hi Riccis, Thanks for the info. More questions: What kind of B&W films do you use? or Robert makes B&W prints from your C41 negative? Thanks again. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Riccis Posted October 14, 2008 Share #50 Posted October 14, 2008 Hi Riccis, Thanks for the info. More questions: What kind of B&W films do you use? or Robert makes B&W prints from your C41 negative? Thanks again. I use Fuji Neopan for my B&W work but Robert also makes B&W prints from the C-41 color negatives. Take care, Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest stnami Posted October 14, 2008 Share #51 Posted October 14, 2008 By 1874, Janssen had invented a ``photographic revolver.'' It was ``fired''to take six photographs in rapid succession. In 1882, the French doctor Etienne Jules Marey used the photographic gun to record the flight of birds. Perhaps it is from these times that ``shooting'' is associated with photography (and cinema). Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/65123-who-still-shoot-films-professionally/?do=findComment&comment=684149'>More sharing options...
SJP Posted October 14, 2008 Share #52 Posted October 14, 2008 This what we want for the M9 Nothing Toxic: Different kind of picture camara "Leica Gun" Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frase Posted October 14, 2008 Share #53 Posted October 14, 2008 no point anymore using film for work, I only shoot film for fun! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
kenneth Posted October 14, 2008 Share #54 Posted October 14, 2008 I am an amateur, so maybe I am not allowed to comment on this thread but that never stopped me before. I have just added another M6 Classic today to the one I already own. I am considering moving back to D&P for black and white and I use lab processed Kodachrome 64. I don't own a scanner but I have a beautiful Leitz Pradovit 300R slide projector with a Leitz Colourplan 90mm lens and I would not thank you for a digital camera of any description, not even a Leica Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/65123-who-still-shoot-films-professionally/?do=findComment&comment=684480'>More sharing options...
Guest noah_addis Posted October 14, 2008 Share #55 Posted October 14, 2008 Of course you can comment, Kenneth, your views are every bit as valid as those of a pro photographer. Personally, if I did not shoot professionally I would shoot 100 percent film! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
kenneth Posted October 14, 2008 Share #56 Posted October 14, 2008 Of course you can comment, Kenneth, your views are every bit as valid as those of a pro photographer. Personally, if I did not shoot professionally I would shoot 100 percent film! Don't get me wrong, I feel that digital technologies are a great aid to photographers who, like yourself, make a living from your craft. As indeed it is a must, I would assume, for sport photo pros. I guess I get a little tired of digital photography constantly being rolled out as the panacea for all, which it isn't. I am sure that people coming to photography for the first time are missing out on the nuts and bolts, so to speak and they allow the camera to be in charge, whereas, it is the photographer who must always be in control. But of course, someone like yourself will have learned that in your profession. Which in a long winded round about way says, I totally agree with you Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SJP Posted October 14, 2008 Share #57 Posted October 14, 2008 whereas, it is the photographer who must always be in controlNot wishing to throw oil onto the fire, but why should a digital photographer not have control of the situation? You can switch offf all the auto things if they get in your way (or buy an M8 which is pretty basic by any digital tech standards), you get immediate feedback on the shot so you can fine tune the exposure if necessary, if you don't like te color balance etc. you can tweak all of that to your hearts' content. All of this amounts to MORE control (maybe too much - but still).If you mean that I (we) get more satisfaction from a shot that is nailed without further tweaking (digital or otherwise) then I agree with you. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
kenneth Posted October 15, 2008 Share #58 Posted October 15, 2008 Not wishing to throw oil onto the fire, but why should a digital photographer not have control of the situation? You can switch offf all the auto things if they get in your way (or buy an M8 which is pretty basic by any digital tech standards), you get immediate feedback on the shot so you can fine tune the exposure if necessary, if you don't like te color balance etc. you can tweak all of that to your hearts' content. All of this amounts to MORE control (maybe too much - but still).If you mean that I (we) get more satisfaction from a shot that is nailed without further tweaking (digital or otherwise) then I agree with you. But you are missing the point. "Immediate feedback"- your words and "tweak all of that to your hearts content". This is the rhetoric of the, I want it now culture, we are not prepared to be patient. When I send my Kodachrome 64 film for processing I have to wait up to 14 days to get my results back. This is called patience. It engenders a certain anticipation. Something alien to the now society. I know which I would rather have. Something the internet has given all of us we can get anything, and we can get it now. No surprises left. You can keep it as far as I am concerned Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shootist Posted October 15, 2008 Share #59 Posted October 15, 2008 But you are missing the point. "Immediate feedback"- your words and "tweak all of that to your hearts content". This is the rhetoric of the, I want it now culture, we are not prepared to be patient. When I send my Kodachrome 64 film for processing I have to wait up to 14 days to get my results back. This is called patience. It engenders a certain anticipation. Something alien to the now society. I know which I would rather have. Something the internet has given all of us we can get anything, and we can get it now. No surprises left. You can keep it as far as I am concerned Kenneth I think you may be missing the point. Everyone is entitled to there own opinion. It is just like A holes, everyone has one. So your opinion differs from SJP's. Both are right for each person and not for the other. That's just the way it is. I find Digital just as rewarding as film, and easier, "IF I DO MY PART". If I don't do my part they both suck. It's not the medium you use, it the end result that counts. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
kenneth Posted October 15, 2008 Share #60 Posted October 15, 2008 Kenneth I think you may be missing the point.Everyone is entitled to there own opinion. It is just like A holes, everyone has one. So your opinion differs from SJP's. Both are right for each person and not for the other. That's just the way it is. I find Digital just as rewarding as film, and easier, "IF I DO MY PART". If I don't do my part they both suck. It's not the medium you use, it the end result that counts. It's not the medium you use, it the end result that counts I totally agree. Photography is not an exact science but an art form and it is, what works for you at the end of the day Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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