andybarton Posted September 29, 2008 Share #41 Posted September 29, 2008 Advertisement (gone after registration) Without spending all afternoon trawling through this lot to sift out the nonsense, it would be appreciated if you could all re-read the rules, please. Otherwise, we will just delete the thread. Thanks Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Advertisement Posted September 29, 2008 Posted September 29, 2008 Hi andybarton, Take a look here Leica S2 compared to MF. I'm sure you'll find what you were looking for!
peterv Posted September 29, 2008 Share #42 Posted September 29, 2008 Paul, I fully agree. BTW,Leica calls the format produced by the S2: Leica Pro Format Cheers, Peter Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
paulmoore Posted September 29, 2008 Share #43 Posted September 29, 2008 I've been thinking this too, its a digital Pentax 67, and that's meant in an entirely positive way. I wonder what the guys at Pentax are thinking.......... "woulduv,coulduv,shouduv" Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guy_mancuso Posted September 29, 2008 Share #44 Posted September 29, 2008 BTW the P45 Plus is 39 mpx and if processed at 16 bit Tiff it is a 223 mg file. Size is 7216 x 5412 . The S2 not doing the math should come in around 200 mg 16 bit Tiff files. That is pretty darn big. In comparison my Phase 25 Plus is a 16 bit 127mg file at 4080 x 5436. Example this is a P45 plus I shot last week which BTW is a 6.8 micron sensor the S2 is 6 micron I believe. This is a slightly cropped file to start at 191 mg from the 223 mg original file. than a close up crop. So i would assume you can get the same with the S2. Processed in C1 Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/63981-leica-s2-compared-to-mf/?do=findComment&comment=670175'>More sharing options...
Guest guy_mancuso Posted September 29, 2008 Share #45 Posted September 29, 2008 "woulduv,coulduv,shouduv" They had a prototype which I saw at PMA last year and never went to market with it. But it did look pretty nice too even though behind a glass case. Shame Pentax always had some nice glass Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lxlim Posted September 29, 2008 Share #46 Posted September 29, 2008 ...The Pro's will base their decisions on valuable reference material from reliable and trusted sources. The risk here is that unknowing amateurs will think you're a Guru, in error. At least, Guy is kinda helpful and his knowledge shared does not conflict with my experience. His posts are generally helpful and do not begin with insinuations or insults. Thus in my view, he is a trusted source but if were to buy the S2 it will be a hands-on test and not reference materials nor trusted sources. It is after all my responsibility, is it not? I've not met a single veteran pro who base their purchases on someone elses experience without numerous hands on sessions. Perhaps, its a poor start on your part and would like to begin with some of your experiences that might be helpful to non-MFB users like myself. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guy_mancuso Posted September 29, 2008 Share #47 Posted September 29, 2008 Advertisement (gone after registration) Thanks appreciate that you are correct do not go by one source ever. Read all you can get opinions , read the specs and basically do you homework. I always do research on anything i buy with regards to camera gear. This is a big puzzle and you need to find all the pieces that fit that give you a idea what you are getting . Than figure out the costs and make sure it works for you. If you are buying the S2 than research all you can on Hassy,Phase , Sinar and Leaf and know the systems inside and out. Than make the best decision for you. I love Leica gear but I will pass on this if it is not right for me and not think twice about it after i figured it all out. BTW not touting my own horn but I do try very hard to be helpful and always honest as i can when i get into testing any of this stuff. No reason for anything else , i make absolutely no money from anyone or from any test. I'm not trying to sell anything and nothing to gain except to help. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShyTot Posted September 29, 2008 Share #48 Posted September 29, 2008 Perhaps, its a poor start on your part and would like to begin with some of your experiences that might be helpful to non-MFB users like myself. lxlim, we left that behind at post No 38 when I was courteous enough to let Guy have the last word. Perhaps, it's best just left behind, until next time. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lxlim Posted September 29, 2008 Share #49 Posted September 29, 2008 I'm a sequential reader and forgot to read all the posts first. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lxlim Posted September 29, 2008 Share #50 Posted September 29, 2008 Does anyone have a preference for dual CF slots instead of the planned CF+SD combo? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
paulmoore Posted September 29, 2008 Share #51 Posted September 29, 2008 Does anyone have a preference for dual CF slots instead of the planned CF+SD combo? why not dual sd.. I have not used CF in a few years and I was less than happy way back then.. I guess the cf's are bigger and faster??.. I like the idea of the sd for jpgs and cf for raw but don't use that now in my workflow so I'm open to it. . also not sure if they could cram in 2 cf slots.. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lxlim Posted September 29, 2008 Share #52 Posted September 29, 2008 why not dual sd.. I have not used CF in a few years and I was less than happy way back then.. I guess the cf's are bigger and faster??.. I like the idea of the sd for jpgs and cf for raw but don't use that now in my workflow so I'm open to it. . also not sure if they could cram in 2 cf slots.. Prefer dual CF(I have more big capacity CF cards ). I think CFs are much faster and bigger capacity at the moment but I am not very up to date on this. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guy_mancuso Posted September 29, 2008 Share #53 Posted September 29, 2008 Not a big preference for me either except the space it takes in the camera might have been the deciding factor. I guess i would like the same either way since you don't have to carry separate readers, I know there are multi readers but I use in my MacBook Pro the express card slot even though there is a workaround there also. For some reason i would just like the same, less to think about. Personal preference here it seems. CF cards do seem to come to market bigger and faster than the SD ones Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
paulmoore Posted September 29, 2008 Share #54 Posted September 29, 2008 what is the info on the hdmi out.. will there be llve view on this or is it just to output to large display to see the shots come up as you shoot? also.. what is up with the usb tethering?? I thought firewire is much faster.. what about hdmi for that ? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lxlim Posted September 29, 2008 Share #55 Posted September 29, 2008 Nice shot, Guy. Like the lighting Fifteen years back I would have added a top light but the tent would have to be enormous and retouching would have been a must. These days I would find a location with a nice ceiling to reflect off the fender and fuel tanks and use profotos battery packs.... still need to retouch My commercial photography skills are very rusty Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guy_mancuso Posted September 29, 2008 Share #56 Posted September 29, 2008 Paul I am pretty sure HDMI is just to hook up to a display as you shoot and maybe playback stuff also. I like firewire better myself and you will be able to shoot tethered to C1. Not sure about live view but if in C1 we can do that tethered with the new Pro version coming and also 3.7.8 software. The new Pro version is much faster at this so I would assume yes with C1 tethered. We will have to see how that shakes out with C1 and this S2 dedicated to it. I'm sure Phase will support it at that time Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guy_mancuso Posted September 29, 2008 Share #57 Posted September 29, 2008 Nice shot, Guy. Like the lighting Fifteen years back I would have added a top light but the tent would have to be enormous and retouching would have been a must. These days I would find a location with a nice ceiling to reflect off the fender and fuel tanks and use profotos battery packs.... still need to retouch My commercial photography skills are very rusty Used 10 lights and actually ran out of heads , we wanted to add more. All shot with Profoto's Top light was doing weird reflections to the tank so we moved a big strip around to the front slightly. Round tank big reflections on it. The jpegs are really not showing how much detail is really there but i would expect the same from the S2 37mpx sensor. Frankly this part is the least of my worries is the quality of file. I love the Kodak sensors and this should be no exception to clean crisp images on the S2. That part is almost a guarantee for me. Reason i posted it , nothing really to worry about there. The functions and features are what I would like more info on for sure. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lxlim Posted September 29, 2008 Share #58 Posted September 29, 2008 what is the info on the hdmi out.. will there be llve view on this or is it just to output to large display to see the shots come up as you shoot?also.. what is up with the usb tethering?? I thought firewire is much faster.. what about hdmi for that ? I think no live view but output to large display was mentioned in David Farkas's blog. USB tethering seems to be the trend, my 1dmkIII is usb while 1dmkIIn is firewire. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lxlim Posted September 29, 2008 Share #59 Posted September 29, 2008 Used 10 lights and actually ran out of heads , we wanted to add more. All shot with Profoto's Top light was doing weird reflections to the tank so we moved a big strip around to the front slightly. Round tank big reflections on it. Its the curved surfaces, those are a real killers. Not a criticism, my you. If the client is happy, I'm happy. If he wants nice reflections off the tanks and fenders, he will have to pay for building that igloo around his bike. 10 lights, yikes! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
rosuna Posted September 29, 2008 Share #60 Posted September 29, 2008 Leica glass.-- True, but Hassy/Zeiss glass no slouch too. Zeiss, maybe, but Fuji lenses for Hasselblad H series... ...from David Farkas' blog, about Hasselblad lenses: I took a look at the new HCD 35-90mm f/4-5.6 zoom lens. Reading about the tech in this lens is interesting. It is only for use with “full frame 48mm” and the designers knowingly created the lens with increased distortion and vignetting. The new Hassy philosophy seems to be that we’ll just fix it in post, a la digital lens correction. Seems a bit fishy, especially at this price ($6,999 USD). David Farkas Photography Blog . Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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