gylee Posted September 16, 2006 Share #1 Posted September 16, 2006 Advertisement (gone after registration) I am curious. If cost was truly no object (and I mean that in all ways - forget the higher acquisition costs of the M8, forget the cost of film and processing for the MP/M7 and assume that the MP/M7 comes with a first rate scanner), which would you buy - the M8 or the MP/M7 (you choose which of the two film cameras)? Personally, I probably lean in the MP/M7 direction (although I sway on which of the two to go for), but having now seen the M8, there is, I admit, a slight stirring in that direction as well. I would be interested to hear other views. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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sean_reid Posted September 16, 2006 Share #2 Posted September 16, 2006 M8 for me. Digital workflow is now part of my life for commercial and personal work. Cheers, Sean Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gylee Posted September 16, 2006 Author Share #3 Posted September 16, 2006 M8 for me. Digital workflow is now part of my life for commercial and personal work. Cheers, Sean Thanks Sean. I just subscribed to your review site. Great stuff! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sean_reid Posted September 16, 2006 Share #4 Posted September 16, 2006 Thanks Sean. I just subscribed to your review site. Great stuff! Thanks, glad to hear it. Cheers, Sean Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sdai Posted September 16, 2006 Share #5 Posted September 16, 2006 I would be interested to hear other views. I've ordered a silver M8 (man, that was more than a year ago ... ) but I'll keep my M7/MP and probably will use them more often than with the digital one. I have not much time to waste in front of the computer and one of North America's best wet labs is within 10 minutes walking distance from my office ... basically, I can drop the films there when I drive by in the morning and get my prints/slides mounted at lunch time. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
pascal_meheut Posted September 16, 2006 Share #6 Posted September 16, 2006 A M8.I already have the M7+first rate scanners+everything system and this is a nice tool. But I also have the DMR and I found that the digital is a wonderful photographic tool and especially when shooting people. Not to mention the other well-known advantages... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
khun_k Posted September 16, 2006 Share #7 Posted September 16, 2006 Advertisement (gone after registration) I am curious. If cost was truly no object (and I mean that in all ways - forget the higher acquisition costs of the M8, forget the cost of film and processing for the MP/M7 and assume that the MP/M7 comes with a first rate scanner), which would you buy - the M8 or the MP/M7 (you choose which of the two film cameras)? Personally, I probably lean in the MP/M7 direction (although I sway on which of the two to go for), but having now seen the M8, there is, I admit, a slight stirring in that direction as well. I would be interested to hear other views. With no hesitation, a M8. I already have some MPs and M7 and some older M, but if have no Leica M at all, I will still go for M8. Scanning film at high resolution is so slow, and I like the crisp and clear image directly from digital capture, it just made things much easier for me. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
moikle Posted September 16, 2006 Share #8 Posted September 16, 2006 I just wonder when all the euphoria has died down will we have the start of the 1.3 x whinge? I am known among my family and friends as an early adopter of new products but I am holding back on this as I can only see the need for shorter lenses to compensate thus extra cost. For me I'll stay with my M7 for the near future and see how it goes. I also actually enjoy scanning as an extra challenge. Mike Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
pascal_meheut Posted September 16, 2006 Share #9 Posted September 16, 2006 We have been aware of the 1.3x problem months from now. Some of us have lived with it for most than 1 year on the DMR. So clearly, we think that the cost of tweaking our set of lenses is worth it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
stunsworth Posted September 16, 2006 Share #10 Posted September 16, 2006 M8, high quality digital blows scanned colour negative and slide film away. _However_ it looks different and some will still prefer film - I like both. If money was really no object then the obvious answer is to use both. I have no intention of selling my M6 even if I buy an M8. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
marknorton Posted September 16, 2006 Share #11 Posted September 16, 2006 M8, no question. I haven't used film for years. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveYork Posted September 16, 2006 Share #12 Posted September 16, 2006 Getting away from the electroncis was one of the reasons I went to the Leica M all those years ago. I feel for an amateur, who does not have deadlines, where film and good processing is still plenty available, there's no overwhelming (i.e., necessary) reason to go digital. Both film and digital has it's pros and cons. I suspect many folks who go with the M8 will continue to shoot some film. Why did you go to the Leica M in the first place? The great Leica optics? The small compact nature of the camera? The mechanical nature of the camera? Ect., ect. Answers to questions like these may be helpful as a guide. I would like to see the digital image of the M8. And the ability to change ISO settings between shots would be very convenient. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
pascal_meheut Posted September 16, 2006 Share #13 Posted September 16, 2006 Why did you go to the Leica M in the first place? The great Leica optics? The small compact nature of the camera? The mechanical nature of the camera? Ect., ect. Answers to questions like these may be helpful as a guide. Because it was a silent, non obtrusive camera, great for street shooting. After that, it appeared it was also great for people shooting in general and for travelling... So the M8 has all these qualities plus a lot more... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
moikle Posted September 16, 2006 Share #14 Posted September 16, 2006 Just a thought anyone seen some output from an M8 yet? Mike Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
humanized_form Posted September 16, 2006 Share #15 Posted September 16, 2006 using both is my plan. though if i had to choose one option i think i would choose the M7 and color slide film, as i would rather have the experience of using color slide film while it is still around and still easily processed same day. that choice will go away at some point. i prefer the straight out of the camera images my M7, 35mm Summilux Asph and Provia 100 can deliver over the convenience of digital and post processing. i like the challenge of getting everything right in camera, it is fun. i like looking at slides on a lightbox or inside a little viewer more than looking at images on a computer screen. i like having the hard archive of a slide instead of an image file. all that said i have never been more excited by the arrival of a digital camera and i will buy an M8. i started with digital capture, went to film for the experience of using it before it went away, and fell hard for the the feel and simplicity of analog camera design. i have been waiting for a relatively compact high quality alternative to a dslr, a digital camera i will want to use. i think the M8 is it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
grober Posted September 17, 2006 Share #16 Posted September 17, 2006 M8, hands down. (Sold my M7 already in anticipation although I did buy a new Bessa R2M just so I'll always be able to shoot film. I'll keep my Nikon CoolScan V too.) THE deciding factor for me was the rapid decline in the quality of available color film processing. There are only TWO pro labs within 100 miles of where I live and, of course, they are spendy whenever I have used them. To see twenty-somethings whip my precious negatives around their mini-labs is distressing to the max. So many of these eager youngsters have no idea how really fragile a negative is! Yes, there is better image permanence with film, but not enough of a reason to slow down my dollar accumulation in preparation for the M8 buy the instant it's available. Yes, the convenience of digital is also appealing but the factors mentioned above pushed me over the edge. I slammed down a deposit three months ago and remain #1 on their waiting list at my local authorized Leica dealer. My Leica glass will continue to have a life after film! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
abrewer Posted September 17, 2006 Share #17 Posted September 17, 2006 Put me down for the film M. I really like the mechanical operation and the feel of advancing the film and rewinding.... It's like a sacred ritual that I would hate to lose. Admitted that I don't take pictures for a living, and that would no doubt change my priorities here, I'm comfortable with my MP for the foreseeable future. Thanks. Allan Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sean_reid Posted September 17, 2006 Share #18 Posted September 17, 2006 Just a thought anyone seen some output from an M8 yet? Mike Yes, I have seen a lot of output and it's excellent. Can't discuss in further detail but I will say that much emphatically. Cheers, Sean Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mat_mcdermott Posted September 17, 2006 Share #19 Posted September 17, 2006 M8 all the way. I now use an M6TTL (don't mind not having aperture-priority AE) and have a good film scanner, but love the idea of never having to scan again. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChipNovaMac Posted September 17, 2006 Share #20 Posted September 17, 2006 M8 for me. Digital workflow is now part of my life for commercial and personal work. Cheers, Sean I too am leaning this way for my more personal work. Though the addition of the M8 IMO will give new life to shooting some film too. One set of lenses that in film are great, and these same lenses giving us a decent digital workflow. As stated in a number of threads, I am looking forward to adding the M8 to my RF kit.I see the M8 as being the main work horse, with my M6TTL being used for more of the extreme wide angle shots. I am now seeing my Nikon kit as for more "extreme" shooting (I have the 10.5, a Tokina 12-24, the 18-200VR, a 35/2.0, a 50/1.4, and a decent Nikon CLS flash kit - along with two D70s bodies and a D50 converted to digital IR). I have always loved RF work. Using the DOF scale in order to shoot from the hip. The "snit" of the shutter being missed from those that were looking for the "slap" of the SLR. Not to forget the wonderful qualities of the Leica lenses in film prints. We can only hope that the M8 will allow us the same. The technical details on the depths that Leica and Kodak went on the off-set lenses gives us hope. One only has to look at the sample images from Canon and DPR on the Canon 5D to see that Leica is on the right track. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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