Elmar 135/4,5 Nº 100.170 in 1931 Nagel camera and other Elmars in non-leica cameras

[carlos arnaiz]

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ERNST LEITZ ELMAR on non-Leica cameras, 1931

I'm coming to you to see if you can lend me a hand.

 

My name is Carlos, I am new to the forum, and I have come to you in search of information that I cannot find online, nor has Leica been able to confirm.

 

In addition to my 1936 Leica IIIa (No. 193780), I am particularly interested in August Nagel cameras from 1928 to 1942.

 The famous Nagel Pupille (December 1930) was equipped with Elmar 3.5/5 lenses as an option and was a big seller. Other Nagel models also used Ernst Leitz lenses, such as the Vollendas 048, the 70, and the Recomar 18 and 33. There were also some other brands that offered Elmar lenses in their cameras, Welta, for example.

 

The Elmar lens numbers observed on these non-Leica cameras all appear to fall between 100,000 and 114,000.

 

The Leica lens listings found online begin at 100,000 in 1931.

 

I have a Nagel Recomar 33 equipped with an Elmar 4.5/13.5 lens, serial number 100170.

 

I contacted Leica, and they told me that the entire double-page logbook between 100101 and 100200 is completely blank, with no entries whatsoever. They sent me the page, and indeed it is blank (it seems the preceding and following pages are also blank, 100051 to 100100 and 100201 to 100250). They say they have no further information, but that it might be in a specific book.

 

I also checked with Leica regarding my Elmar 3.5/5 serial number 105929 from my Pupille camera, and they were able to provide me with a delivery date of January 14, 1932.

 

That's been a long introduction; now for the question I need your help with:

 

Does anyone have information about these Elmar lenses mounted on cameras other than Leica?

 

Does anyone know how many were supplied to the different brands?

 

Can you think of any way to delve deeper into this topic?

 

Thank you very much in advance.

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