jacopastorius Posted July 10 Share #1 Posted July 10 Advertisement (gone after registration) hi all. this morning I just got my first rangefinder camera, the M10. I'm using it with a Voigtlander 35mm Ultron f2. I noticed that I can't visualize the 4 frame lines all together. I have to move a little my eye and the camera to be able to view the right and the left lines.. Is it normal? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Carlos cruz Posted July 10 Share #2 Posted July 10 I assume it’s an m version ultron or ltm with proper adapter 35/135? Have you tried what would happen if your favourite lens was 28? Unluckily there’s no gimmick to make framelines easier to see, you have to find good, centered position for your eye. I am left eyed so I know how much fun it can be. A propos adapters take care to buy only those that will cover 6 bit reader I.e. without cut out for older focusing levers. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
rogxwhit Posted July 10 Share #3 Posted July 10 Assuming that the frame-lines are the correct ones, that's odd. I wear specs, & with a 35mm on an M10 I can see all the lines - if maybe not right into all four corners at once, but the lens tends to block one corner anyway. Unlike with a reflex camera where I pursue great precision in framing, with the Leica I'm more relaxed & carefree, and I haven't noticed any detriment in the results. I'll even use a 28mm, certainly w/o being able to see all its frame-lines, & just happily winging it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jacopastorius Posted July 10 Author Share #4 Posted July 10 1 hour ago, Carlos cruz said: I assume it’s an m version ultron or ltm with proper adapter 35/135? Have you tried what would happen if your favourite lens was 28? Unluckily there’s no gimmick to make framelines easier to see, you have to find good, centered position for your eye. I am left eyed so I know how much fun it can be. A propos adapters take care to buy only those that will cover 6 bit reader I.e. without cut out for older focusing levers. no, I have no adapters here. it's just an M lens Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jacopastorius Posted July 10 Author Share #5 Posted July 10 (edited) 1 hour ago, rogxwhit said: Assuming that the frame-lines are the correct ones, that's odd. I wear specs, & with a 35mm on an M10 I can see all the lines - if maybe not right into all four corners at once, but the lens tends to block one corner anyway. Unlike with a reflex camera where I pursue great precision in framing, with the Leica I'm more relaxed & carefree, and I haven't noticed any detriment in the results. I'll even use a 28mm, certainly w/o being able to see all its frame-lines, & just happily winging it. yes they are the correct lines because trying to shift the lever I got the other frame lines. they are just far away from each others I have to move my eye a little to see left and then right one. In order to see the whole frame I have to move my eye closer to the VF so much I can feel my eyelashes banding Edited July 10 by jacopastorius Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
adan Posted July 10 Share #6 Posted July 10 How close is your eye to the eyepiece? It should be as close as possible! Mash the camera into your face. Do you wear eyeglasses that get between your eye and the eyepiece? If anything, Leica M framelines are designed to be a bit narrow for the lens in use (your final picture will include slightly more than the lines indicate). In order to make sure you capture everything the framelines show (tops of heads, etc.) - with an extra margin for aiming error. Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/422971-new-rangefinder-user-question-about-frame-lines/?do=findComment&comment=5831401'>More sharing options...
jacopastorius Posted July 10 Author Share #7 Posted July 10 Advertisement (gone after registration) 2 hours ago, adan said: How close is your eye to the eyepiece? It should be as close as possible! Mash the camera into your face. Do you wear eyeglasses that get between your eye and the eyepiece? If anything, Leica M framelines are designed to be a bit narrow for the lens in use (your final picture will include slightly more than the lines indicate). In order to make sure you capture everything the framelines show (tops of heads, etc.) - with an extra margin for aiming error. Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! thanks for replying. Actually I am not so close to the VF. The closer I get the better I see! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris W Posted July 11 Share #8 Posted July 11 I'm usually rammed up to the viewfinder and have no problem seeing 35mm framelines. Also be aware that the framelines are slightly a guide, not 100% accurate. The offset of the two focussing elements means that if you centre your subject, depending on how far away you are, the subject will be slightly off centre in the final image. With practice you will be able to compensate for that while composing in camera. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jacopastorius Posted July 11 Author Share #9 Posted July 11 thanks guys! the advice of getting closer to the viewfinder was definitely useful! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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