An R10 sensor prediction

[ptomsu]

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Take a cue from Nikon and use:

BF = Barnack Format = 3:2

4F = 4:3

5F = 5:4

or better, keep things more traditional by replacing 4F and 5F with their Roman equivalents:

IVF = 4:3

VF = 5:4

 

Or take a cue from Canon and use:

BF Mk I FF = 3:2

BF Mk II 4 = 4:3

BF Mk III 5 = 5:4

 

Or envisage it as a new, non-derivative sensor and use:

RFF = R Full Frame = 4:3

RRF = R Reduced Frame = 5:4

RBF = R Barnack Frame = 3:2

or perhaps instead of RRF, use:

RTF = R Traditional Frame = 5:4 (since 5:4 is the oldest of these aspect ratios)

 

 

Andy--see what you started!

 

--HC

 

PS--

If they include the square crop:

Nikon Style -- 1F or IF = 1:1

Canon Style -- BFs Mk I Sq = Barnack Frame square = 1:1

Non-derivative Style -- RSF = R Square Frame = 1:1

 

I must say I really love the Canon one

 

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[rosuna]

I would suggest to open the R mount to other manufacturers of lenses and cameras, proposing an open standard. Rollei/Sinar/Leaf, Mamiya/Phase One or Olympus/Panasonic did it. I think it is a good idea.

[rosuna]

M and R lines are both professional cameras. It makes sense, in my opinion, some kind of specialization of the lines, the M line for reportage and the R line for studio/landscape work.

 

You can see this type of specialization in Canon and Nikon products too, among different reflex cameras. On other hand, these cameras are very versatile. For instance, you have great image quality with the 1D Mark III (10MP, 14 bits), and fast frame rates with the 1Ds Mark III. This versatility is technically difficult and costly. IMHO Leica need autofocus R lenses and high image quality for the R10, designing it for a particular kind of photography (putting all the available resources in making a brilliant camera for some applications), and complementing the R line with the M line. It doesn't make sense to accept compromises in order to offer with the R line the same parameters that the M line needs (small size, fast operation, low noise at high ISOs).

[Angora]

Rosuna, if you specialize the R line for studio/landscape work, AF doesn't make sense.

 

Plus, I foresee people will be demanding a "traditional digital camera", as several digital users user switch to M or R lines, each year.

[rosuna]

Medium format systems have autofocus (Hasselblad, Mamiya, Hy6... Pentax 645D... if it see the light...). It is important for studio work, even if you make product photographs. I don't think fast 51 points AF is needed, of course. A simple and accurate system would be enough.

[Angora]

I've never been in situation of photographing in studio, but I thought it wouldn't require AF... maybe MF partly switched to AF because the photographers were accustomed to it with 35mm format.

[rosuna]

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I think it is fast and easy, if it is accurate too. Focusing is a task that the camera can do for you, faster and with more precision. I don't need it, but many people consider it a must. They want not go back to manual focus, except for a camera like the M8 (this is "a different thing"). It is not my case, because studio work isn't my field, but is is a consistent comment: AF lenses, sharpness, resolution, image quality in general... maybe price. On the other hand, body size, frames per second, LCD size, Live View, wi-fi... those things aren't mentioned.

 

From my discussions with friends, professional photographers in studio, I deduce that they are waiting on some kind of camera that offer superior image quality at lower prices than medium format solutions. Consider, for instance, the 1Ds Mark III. Many people share this opinion: it doesn't worth the cost of the upgrade (from the 1Ds Mark II). Files are much bigger and real detail is only a bit better (tonal resolution and color are better, this is true). The quality of 22MP CCD medium format backs is yet unsurpassed by the 35mm format, and they want just that quality. But MF is too pricey.