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3 hours ago, Dazzajl said:

I think that’s called a ‘Fuji’ ;)

If that is truly the situation then Fuji, clearly, are doing 'better' than most manufacturers!

🙂

Philip.

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I think this explains it best , so much for progress , plus the 4 has a built in flash too !

( must get the builders to get their act together and find mine asap , I do miss her )

4 ; ease of choosing program with traditional dial  vs 8 , cryptic sub program hidden behind swathe of options

 

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Okay, then I know what you mean, but I think the newer Leica has solved it better. If you set everything to a,  the Camera is in automatic mode. If you adjust the aperture, you are in aperture mode. If you change the shutter speed, you are automatically in S mode. This way, you can set it much more precisely than having to go into the menu after selecting aperture to choose which aperture you want to shoot with.

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So basically you're saying change the relevant amount on the shutter / aperture ring ,  it enters that mode , ok , that's starting to make sense , fair enough

Shame I had to rely on you rather than the cryptic booklet though to explain it 

Still prefer the old way of just having a simple obvious control ...  I guess that's 'progress' for you 

" If it ain't broke , don't fix it "

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Yes, exactly! You simply change the relevant value, and the camera adjusts automatically - no need for complicated menus.

 

I totally get what you mean. Sometimes, “progress” just feels like unnecessary complexity. The old method with dedicated, clear controls definitely had its charm.

 

But at least we have figured it out now - better than spending hours fighting with the manual!

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If I can contribute in any way,

I've created 3 user profiles based on my needs: one for still color photos (portrait or landscape), one for photos with a moving subject, and one for black and white photography. Each profile has its own maximum ISO threshold not to be exceeded. I then assigned one of the buttons on the back of the camera to quickly switch between profiles.

In practice, I choose the profile I need and then adjust the aperture (most often) or the shutter speed. I’m still practicing, but this allows me to be quite fast and cover my needs.

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