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vor 14 Stunden schrieb kobra:

Frank, your images are amazing! 

Thank you for showing us these, and helping me to understand what is possible. My SL3-S just showed up so eager to try it out. 

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Brad

Thank you Brad!

Was the first time I was outdoor with the SL3-s and I tried it in a foggy winter day.... The results are encouraging - I bought the SL3-s as second body to my SL3 for "fast shooting" birds / wildlife. I feel like back in 2020 when I sold my Nikon D5 and other Nikon equipment to buy a lot of Leica... I love Leica, but missed the D5 for fast shooting. D5 is now back - named Leica SL3-s... 😎 Bad news for Leica: my equipment is complete 😂 Think I have all I need for different situations (SL, M, Q). Good luck with your SL3-s !!! Enjoy it!

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Formation flight... SL3-s, 500 5.6, crop, foggy conditions, 3200 ISO

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Underwater search... SL3-s, 500 5.6

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SL3-S, Voigtländer APO Lanthar 35mm, f/5.6, 120 s

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On 2/3/2025 at 1:11 PM, helged said:

Atlas (& company!) enjoying the snow... SL3-S with Sigma 70-200, mostly at 7 and 15 fps.

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The way that lens renders the texture of your dogs hair is pretty remarkable and very pretty.

 

Never considered Sigma. I always assumed they where second reason ( no reason for that obviously incorrect assumption ) but that first image is really having me take notice.

Amazing texture rendition !

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8 minutes ago, Altair said:

The way that lens renders the texture of your dogs hair is pretty remarkable and very pretty.

 

Never considered Sigma. I always assumed they where second reason ( no reason for that obviously incorrect assumption ) but that first image is really having me take notice.

Amazing texture rendition !

The new generation of Sigma lenses are great. Sigma DG DN 70-200mm is very, very good, and it has a very fast AF mechanism. The Leica SL 70-200 is essentially the Sigma lens, but in Leica wrapping (and possibly some smaller differences here and there). 

Another outstanding Sigma lens is the 105mm macro. The AF is sloooow, but the sharpness/detailed rendering is outstanding. The relatively new Sigma 500mm f5.6 is outstanding as well (and very small/low weight for the focal length). And the Sigma 14mm f1.4 is top. Others prise the Sigma 50mm f1.2, but I don't have experience with that lens. To give some examples. 

Both Sigma and Panasonic contribute greately to the L-mount lenses, both in quality, diversity and cost (relative to most of the Leica lenses). 

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1 hour ago, helged said:

The new generation of Sigma lenses are great. Sigma DG DN 70-200mm is very, very good, and it has a very fast AF mechanism. The Leica SL 70-200 is essentially the Sigma lens, but in Leica wrapping (and possibly some smaller differences here and there). 

Another outstanding Sigma lens is the 105mm macro. The AF is sloooow, but the sharpness/detailed rendering is outstanding. The relatively new Sigma 500mm f5.6 is outstanding as well (and very small/low weight for the focal length). And the Sigma 14mm f1.4 is top. Others prise the Sigma 50mm f1.2, but I don't have experience with that lens. To give some examples. 

Both Sigma and Panasonic contribute greately to the L-mount lenses, both in quality, diversity and cost (relative to most of the Leica lenses). 

Thank you for the info. I agree the alliance is a genius move and gives Leica a fighting chance to survive. The competitors like Nikon are not only lightyears ahead in technology but are coming out with some amazing lenses that render as wonderfully as Leica glass. 

 

The fact of the matter is, Leica has the most beutifull lenses and offer best made equipment, but in a world where technology is advancing and taking over that's simply not enough and a niche of anything. The SL3S is a triumph because it combines classical Leica strengths with tech that's been transfered and adapted from L alliance partners in a well made package. 

 

That said, Leica still need to do some serious work when it comes to their SL line of lenses. I couldn't justify buying one SL lens, the Nikon alternatives are superior from my comparisons. It's adapting M glass to the SL cameras and the compact size and quality of the M line that keeps Leica in the race for me. 

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Candle Chandelier. SL3S - Noct 75 at 1.25 Aperture priority iso 800

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Waiter silhouette. 

SL3S - Noct 75 at 1.25 Aperture priority iso 100

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Doorway to a nice place. SL3S - Noct 75 at 1.25 Aperture priority iso 800

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This last image is exactly why I love the 75 Noct. The only plane in focus is the window with butterflies at the back, the soft out of focus areas and the way they are rendered creates a dreamy atmosphere that amplifies the natural ambience of spaces like this.

 

To tie this comment to the sibject: I would not have used the Noct 75 as often as I did recently if it's wasn't for the SL3S. Getting the focus just the way you want it everything is a piece of cake with this fantastic viewfinder and focus peaking technology. I do love the M, but the SL is definitely going to be my main camera going forward.

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1 hour ago, Altair said:

Waiter silhouette. 

SL3S - Noct 75 at 1.25 Aperture priority iso 100

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I should say, the issue with some of the bokeh having odd colour transition is my fault due to poor post processing technique. I was trying to hide the waiter details to make him a silhouette and it seems to have messed up the bokeh

 My fault not the camera or lens. Unedited picture attached here

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On 2/1/2025 at 2:30 PM, mpauliks said:

Checkpoint Charlie today :) - Berlin - SL3-S on VE 24-90

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Wow, I remember going through that at the height of the Cold War. The East German side was just plain scary -vicious dogs and machine gun side nests at every turn of the hallway.

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9 hours ago, Altair said:

This last image is exactly why I love the 75 Noct. The only plane in focus is the window with butterflies at the back, the soft out of focus areas and the way they are rendered creates a dreamy atmosphere that amplifies the natural ambience of spaces like this.

 

 

And purple fringe on branches against window at right?

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5 hours ago, Jeff S said:

And purple fringe on branches against window at right?

Oh Leica lenses, with the exception of the APO lenses, are very prone to chromatic abberations and purple fringing wide open. The way I see it, you can live with that and make corrections a part of your routine ( fairly easy, should make that a habit !) or you opt for above mentioned APO lenses which have different characteristics ( better contrast and increased sharpness, less attractive defocus rendering or bokeh ) or you opt for an SL lens or something from another manufacturer. Size and weight is another consideration obviously. To be honest, if I was choosing my lens based on rendering quality, correction, and ease of use I would not shoot with anything but the Nikon 50 1.2 S. Output is glorious! But it's a big black heavy lens that strains my shoulder and makes people nervous.

No right or wrong answer, I believe all have a place and time. Personally, my favorite two lenses to use as a daily lens are the 50 Summilux and 75 Noct, those two lenses really hit the spot for what I like, but everyone has their preferences and style.

 

Hasselblad have an interesting alternative in the form of the X2D and 55V lens. Less attractive bokeh than the Lux and 75 Noct, but has autofocus, well corrected, and remains reasonable in size

To summerize, I can make the Leica lenses look like the best Hasselblad and Nikon output through correction and colour presets, but I can't make the Hassleblad or Nikon look like the best Leica glass out put. You just can't compare the bokeh of the Lux and Noct!

 

At least not yet, in the next five years we are going to see AI assisted bokeh modifications that will probably make these very expensive lenses unnecessary and change the equation. Leica have already started dabbling in this dimension with their latest iPhone grip and software, offering a Leica Look to mimic their most expensive glass. They actually call it the Noctilux look, the 50 Summilux look etc. A taste of things to come. The old adage that states that lenses are a sound investment is not going to be true for long I suspect.

 

For the mean time find what gives you the output you like , accept the limitations, and go shoot!

To tie this in to subject, I am in london for a quick visit. Tonight I went out with the combination of equipment that I find to be the most enjoyable, highly capable, and pushes the limit of what I can comfortably carry in my briefcase with out straining my shoulder. The SL3S with 75 Noct sees the most use, the 55V and X2D do very well during the day for certain scenes especially architecture and nature shots or environmental portrature. In case I do need a wider perspective I keep their little sidekick the Summaron in the bag. Doubles up as a character lens when I want a vintage look wide open. It's surprising how sharp it ks stepped down to f8 and f11! The summaron and SL3S are an amazing combination! I will post images taken with them later on.

 

Comparison shot attached. The SL3S is far more enjoyable to use

 

 

 

 

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Below image taken just now using the SL3S and Summaron. I would not be able to shoot handheld outside my hotel window in pitch darkness at f11 if it wasn't for the cameras excellent low light capabilities. Also posting an image of the SL3S and Summaron. Makes for an excellent walk-around camera as well.

 

 

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I was at the London Leica store and asked to try on the 50 SL Summilux on my SL3S. Great lens! Gorgeous colours and bokeh!!!

 

I asked them if an update of this lens is coming, as it would make sense considering the competition, and all they said was that they hear the same rumours but have no idea. I really do hope a 50 Summilux II close focus comes along sooner rather than later. They wouldn't let me step out of the store with the lens so had nothing to photograph but my own stuff. Lady salesperson seemed like she had enough of people taking her picture so I didn't ask.

 

Attached are two sample photos of the Summilux SL on the SL3S. Purple fringing surprisingly still evident even though this is an SL lens, which is supposed to be well corrected ! This is why I walked out of the store without the lens purchase. At this size weight and price bracket, I don't expect compromise such as this. It's understandable on the M lenses, but not here.

 

Second picture with my 75 Noct shows what the Summilux SL has going for it. Better looking Bokeh and noticeable sharpness on the focused subject. Can't deny its a great lens regardless of issues.

 

 

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6400 ISO Denoise 21 Super Elmar 

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SL3S with Super Elmar M 21 - Not the I photograph churches, this one recently restored and cleaned. I used perspective control which must have caused the artefact with electric overhead wires, they  seem to bend unnaturally. 

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ISO 50000, sl21 apo, denoised with ON1, Bremerhaven

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