New SL2-S But Manufacture Date Is ~2 years Old

[ALScott]

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14 minutes ago, hdmesa said:

I guess I'm confused on how Leica does these kits then. If there is no external generic cardboard paper box on each item, they should still be shrink wrapped or boxed together since Leica shows the kits have their own master serial numbers, which is the number you register the item with. If they weren't attached together somehow, there could be no single serial number per kit because there would have to be a sticker on a box or wrapping.

 

 

Good question and I have no idea.  I was only relaying what I was told for the reason it would come without an outer box.  Maybe if it’s split then you would be able to take the individual serial number for each item and register them.  It is supposed to be here Monday but FedEx habitually lie so it will probably be Tuesday and I will post back here with it’s production date.

[ALScott]

2 hours ago, BernardC said:

That's how camera manufacturing works these days, they are produced in batches. So Leica's factory would have produced the SL2-s almost exclusively for a few months, then moved-on to the next model. These bodies are released to distributors throughout their commercial life.

The classic example for this is the Nikon F6 (their last film body), which was still on sale a decade after the last body was built, but every big brand does this.

I know all brands do this but in my short 9 months of experience with Leica, it is the only brand I have come across where production date means so much across so many different bodies and lenses to owners and buyers.  I do not mean that in a negative way at all, quite the opposite.  The different dates and years can mean huge differences in hardware build and/or IQ.  I mean, I wanted an outer box made of the flimsiest cardboard on the planet, so I am no different and happily admit it.  

[hdmesa]

28 minutes ago, ALScott said:

I know all brands do this but in my short 9 months of experience with Leica, it is the only brand I have come across where production date means so much across so many different bodies and lenses to owners and buyers.  I do not mean that in a negative way at all, quite the opposite.  The different dates and years can mean huge differences in hardware build and/or IQ.  I mean, I wanted an outer box made of the flimsiest cardboard on the planet, so I am no different and happily admit it.  

The only purpose for the outer box is to know it's new and unused. Leica gear that people obsess over the production dates are very old vintage lenses that never came with these boxes, we just know the general dates based on serial numbers.

[BernardC]

5 minutes ago, ALScott said:

The different dates and years can mean huge differences in hardware build and/or IQ.

I'm not convinced, at least within a single model. Leica orders enough sensors, shutters, CPU/logic boards, EVFs, etc., for their production run, and then assembles them. I don't know why the first sensor they pick would be any different from the last one, given that they were all produced in the same billion-dollar fab within hours of each other. Even the stuff that's made in-house won't vary much, since it's CNC machined.

That's slightly different from other types of manufacturing. Some tooling wears-out over time. A mechanic once showed me how a stamped-metal car part had slightly worse tolerances based on the year of production (which is one reason why high-volume cars get a "mid-cycle refresh").

[ALScott]

2 minutes ago, hdmesa said:

The only purpose for the outer box is to know it's new and unused. Leica gear that people obsess over the production dates are very old vintage lenses that never came with these boxes, we just know the general dates based on serial numbers.

The inner box also comes taped/sealed so you would still know it was new and unused.  Plus, this is coming from a very reputable dealer who said it would be missing outer box but was “new and sealed.”  Lens boxes come the same way, M or SL.

[ALScott]

1 minute ago, BernardC said:

I'm not convinced, at least within a single model. Leica orders enough sensors, shutters, CPU/logic boards, EVFs, etc., for their production run, and then assembles them. I don't know why the first sensor they pick would be any different from the last one, given that they were all produced in the same billion-dollar fab within hours of each other. Even the stuff that's made in-house won't vary much, since it's CNC machined.

That's slightly different from other types of manufacturing. Some tooling wears-out over time. A mechanic once showed me how a stamped-metal car part had slightly worse tolerances based on the year of production (which is one reason why high-volume cars get a "mid-cycle refresh").

Sorry, what I meant here was a 50mm summicron v2 made whatever year vs. v5 made whatever year.  I did not mean to imply a difference in an SL2-S made in 2021 vs 2023.  I agree with you there would not be, or should not be any difference.

[ALScott]

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Got it today.  Box date is 8/10/2023.

[ALScott]

@tomasis7 Genuinely curious... Why is that a laughy emoji?

Edited January 9 by ALScott

[tomasis7]

2 years old now.. it is very bad