evikne Posted February 15 Share #201 Posted February 15 (edited) Advertisement (gone after registration) 36 minutes ago, graphlex said: Indeed, but awkward with a small card and no Live View. The card doesn't have to be in perfect focus to be used as a white balance reference. Lens: 1 m minimum focus distance, arm: 0,6 m. 😉 Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Edited February 15 by evikne 3 Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/408483-leica-m11-d-review-by-jonathan-slack/?do=findComment&comment=5758062'>More sharing options...
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RobW0 Posted February 15 Share #202 Posted February 15 1 hour ago, graphlex said: Great review! Two points I want to confirm: 1. Is white balance set in Fotos? 2. There appears to be no practical way to use a gray card without Visoflex, right? I’m mulling whether to trade my wonderful M10-D. I am happy with my M11-D. I think the way you say "my wonderful M10-D" you should just stay with it. Sounds like you are happy with what you have. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
graphlex Posted February 15 Share #203 Posted February 15 1 hour ago, evikne said: The card doesn't have to be in perfect focus to be used as a white balance reference. Lens: 1 m minimum focus distance, arm: 0,6 m. 😉 Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! The gray card doesn’t cover much of the frame but I’ll try it on my M10. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
graphlex Posted February 15 Share #204 Posted February 15 20 minutes ago, RobW0 said: I am happy with my M11-D. I think the way you say "my wonderful M10-D" you should just stay with it. Sounds like you are happy with what you have. That is the sensible decision, but… 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
evikne Posted February 15 Share #205 Posted February 15 12 minutes ago, graphlex said: The gray card doesn’t cover much of the frame but I’ll try it on my M10. You don't have to do it in the camera. Just use the WB eyedropper in LR when you get home to your PC and copy the WB settings onto the other images taken in the same lighting conditions. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smudgerer Posted February 15 Share #206 Posted February 15 2 hours ago, RobW0 said: I am happy with my M11-D. I think the way you say "my wonderful M10-D" you should just stay with it. Sounds like you are happy with what you have. You're right...............if my M10-D hadn't turned out to be such a troubled child I would have kept it and not taken the trade-in offer against the M11-D, but with it having spent half it's life back at Wetzlar for too many reasons I reluctanltly let it go. I liked the sensor in the 10-D. Having said that, and apart from missing the faux winding lever / thumb rest I am ok with the step up to the 11-D. 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonoslack Posted February 16 Author Share #207 Posted February 16 Advertisement (gone after registration) 19 hours ago, graphlex said: Great review! Two points I want to confirm: 1. Is white balance set in Fotos? 2. There appears to be no practical way to use a gray card without Visoflex, right? I’m mulling whether to trade my wonderful M10-D. Hi There You can change the white balance (and most other things) in Fotos - this works very well, if a little slower than one might like. I don't think you can use a grey card, even with the Visoflex, which doesn't have the menu system you might imagine - there was a lot of talk about this during the testing phase, I guess it might happen later, but currently the visoflex is just for taking photos and auto-review (nothing else). But if you shoot DNG you're all cool about the white balance (or hot if you prefer it) - I either shoot daylight (in the day) or auto (in the night) I can fix anything in post (but it's vanishingly rare that I actually do so). I didn't actually get an M10-D (although I was very enamoured with it) but resisting the M11-D was beyond me, and I don't regret it for a moment! 3 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
graphlex Posted February 16 Share #208 Posted February 16 Thank you, Jono. This answers the exact questions I’ve been puzzling over. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
IkarusJohn Posted February 16 Share #209 Posted February 16 4 hours ago, jonoslack said: I either shoot daylight (in the day) or auto (in the night) I can fix anything in post (but it's vanishingly rare that I actually do so). Hi Jono, Interested that you couldn’t resist the M11-D. I love my M10-D! I’m interested in your comment above. I thought from previous discussions that you set your temperature at 5,500 Kelvin and then adjusted in post? Have you changed your approach? I still hold to Auto white balance for everything and then change it in post if I need to. I did previously set the same temp for everything as it gave consistency, but gave up after I found that I could rarely improve on what the camera did … Cheers (& best) John 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonoslack Posted February 16 Author Share #210 Posted February 16 Just now, IkarusJohn said: Hi Jono, Interested that you couldn’t resist the M11-D. I love my M10-D! I’m interested in your comment above. I thought from previous discussions that you set your temperature at 5,500 Kelvin and then adjusted in post? Have you changed your approach? I still hold to Auto white balance for everything and then change it in post if I need to. I did previously set the same temp for everything as it gave consistency, but gave up after I found that I could rarely improve on what the camera did … Cheers (& best) John HI There John I think what happened with the M10-D is that shortly after I finished testing it the M10-R fell into my lap, and I preferred the new sensor (highlight recovery and resolution). So I gave it a miss. As far as white balance is concerned I've done the same for a few years - when out and about in the light I set it on daylight (sunny) because it gives me the ambient lighting (where AWB will try and bring it all back to the same thing). But also because it's like using a film stock - I could change it later, but in reality I very rarely do. I find that if I leave AWB on by mistake then I end up changing it, but if I leave it on 'sunny' then I don't. In mixed lighting I tend to use AWB (because it works well and after all, what is 'right'). All the best 7 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lykafile Posted April 27 Share #211 Posted April 27 Beautiful photos as usual, jono. just curious what metering setting you are using with this camera 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonoslack Posted April 28 Author Share #212 Posted April 28 19 hours ago, lykafile said: Beautiful photos as usual, jono. just curious what metering setting you are using with this camera Thank you! generally I use: Auto ISO max 12,500, minimum shutter 4x focal length Manual White Balance (set to 'sunny') 1/3 stop under exposure Spot exposure metering (half press and recompose if necessary) mostly shot with a wide aperture. best 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lykafile Posted April 28 Share #213 Posted April 28 thank you! 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted April 29 Share #214 Posted April 29 On 4/28/2025 at 1:43 PM, jonoslack said: Thank you! generally I use: Auto ISO max 12,500, minimum shutter 4x focal length Manual White Balance (set to 'sunny') 1/3 stop under exposure Spot exposure metering (half press and recompose if necessary) mostly shot with a wide aperture. best Thanks @jonoslack. A quick question if I may. Are you using the 1/3 stop under exposure to protect highlights or do you find it gives a generally more "correct" exposure when using spot metering? Thanks! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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