metamerism Posted July 29, 2024 Share #21 Posted July 29, 2024 Advertisement (gone after registration) Yup I also notice that autofocus misses sometimes on the s5ii, whereas native LUMIX lenses never miss. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Advertisement Posted July 29, 2024 Posted July 29, 2024 Hi metamerism, Take a look here Samyang 35-150mm AF 2-2.8. I'm sure you'll find what you were looking for!
metamerism Posted July 29, 2024 Share #22 Posted July 29, 2024 6 minutes ago, Michele Belloni said: Mine too and to be honest, with the right time to test it out, it's not a good lens as it seemed in first place. The AF is not precise as a native Leica lens, sadly... hope for a firmware fix. Do u mean your 35-150 has no creep? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simone_DF Posted July 29, 2024 Share #23 Posted July 29, 2024 Does anyone know if the AF accuracy is a problem also on the Sony side of things? Because if not, we may get a firmware update sooner rather than later. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
goodbokeh Posted July 29, 2024 Share #24 Posted July 29, 2024 (edited) Yes, there was a AF firmware update on the Sony mount version of the lens. I've been good with AF accuracy on my SL2. I'm using S-AF with the Field AF point, that's how I run with all my lenses. You guys that are getting AF misses should email Samyang with the circumstances of the problems so a firmware update might happen. I looking forward to the lens station dock also. Edited July 29, 2024 by goodbokeh Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Archiver Posted July 30, 2024 Share #25 Posted July 30, 2024 This lens could be my new main workhorse for video, and stills for events. The zoom range and aperture is just right. The image quality looks decent, and hopefully the autofocus is decent enough with future firmware upgrades. Looking forward to trying one if a shop has one on demo. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michele Belloni Posted July 30, 2024 Share #26 Posted July 30, 2024 23 hours ago, metamerism said: Do u mean your 35-150 has no creep? Mine has lens creep. A lot. And focus accuracy problems. Already contacted Samyang people in chat but everything is ended there... Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
slimsnapped Posted August 1, 2024 Share #27 Posted August 1, 2024 (edited) Advertisement (gone after registration) How has the AF and sharpness been on the SL3? Edited August 1, 2024 by slimsnapped Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michele Belloni Posted August 4, 2024 Share #28 Posted August 4, 2024 In preparation for my next wedding here in Tuscany, I decided to test the Samyang better in calmer situations. Quick result: in terms of sharpness and quality of the bokeh, is at least on par with the Leica 24-70. To be honest, although it has a much greater focal excursion, it seems even better to me. From this compressed image you won't be able to tell much, but I assure you that on a retina screen the Samyang is indistinguishable from the Leica. The precision of the AF in very crowded situations certainly remains the biggest problem for now, but perhaps using iAF instead of AFC will improve something. Hope Samyang will deliver a new firmwre update trying to optimize the AF, as seen on FE mount. Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/395503-samyang-35-150mm-af-2-28/?do=findComment&comment=5462108'>More sharing options...
Michele Belloni Posted September 9, 2024 Share #29 Posted September 9, 2024 There's a new firmware version on Samyang site. Downloaded and installed... tomorrow i will test it a little bit out. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
goodbokeh Posted September 9, 2024 Share #30 Posted September 9, 2024 (edited) 2 hours ago, Michele Belloni said: There's a new firmware version on Samyang site. Downloaded and installed... tomorrow i will test it a little bit out. I wasn't able to get the unzipped and downloaded firmware to my SD card to then be recognized by my SL2. Can you describe your update process Michele, thanks. Edited September 9, 2024 by goodbokeh Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
goodbokeh Posted September 9, 2024 Share #31 Posted September 9, 2024 Never mind Michele. I discovered I needed to go one more file deeper than just the unzipped folder, installing that plf file to the SD card. Well, I haven't notice any differences so far but with the firmware going from 1.0 to 2.1 there must be some improvements I'll find out about later. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michele Belloni Posted September 10, 2024 Share #32 Posted September 10, 2024 6 hours ago, goodbokeh said: Never mind Michele. I discovered I needed to go one more file deeper than just the unzipped folder, installing that plf file to the SD card. Well, I haven't notice any differences so far but with the firmware going from 1.0 to 2.1 there must be some improvements I'll find out about later. Unzip and put the firmware file in the root of your SD card. Then go to the usual camera menu firmware update section. The lens seems more responsive and precise than before but I see "dancing" (front and back) movement in AFC mode. Need to test more later... I have a wedding proposal in some days and need to be sure about what I'm going to do with this lens. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michele Belloni Posted September 11, 2024 Share #33 Posted September 11, 2024 Nothing to do. In AFC is almost unusable with moving subject. I think I'm gonna sell it. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
goodbokeh Posted September 11, 2024 Share #34 Posted September 11, 2024 8 hours ago, Michele Belloni said: Nothing to do. In AFC is almost unusable with moving subject. I think I'm gonna sell it. Michele with your SL3 what zoom lens will you use that meets AFC performance standards for you? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michele Belloni Posted September 13, 2024 Share #35 Posted September 13, 2024 On 9/11/2024 at 5:33 PM, goodbokeh said: Michele with your SL3 what zoom lens will you use that meets AFC performance standards for you? My benchmarks are 75 APO and 24-70 VE. Also the 28m lux on my Q3 is a reference for speed and precision. To be honest using the Samy with moving people is a very challenging thing... And I cannot work that way, I need trusty gear. 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SimonV Posted October 14, 2024 Share #36 Posted October 14, 2024 (edited) I was about to buy this lens used, tried it out in a local store on my SL2-S, and the performance can only be described as abysmal at F2.8, bad at F4 and ok at F5.6. Same issue at different focal lengths. I had my Lumix 24-105 F4 with me, and comparing the two, the Lumix was miles ahead when comparing at F4, and the Lumix is not the world's sharpest lens. The Samyang was close at F5.6, but seems there was clearly something off, or people are vastly overstating its performance. Is this a known issue, or something that could be fixed by firmware? The lens in combination with my camera also exhibited this strange behavior where I would take a shot with the focus point in the center, but when zooming in in playback mode, it would not zoom in on the focus point, but way off somewhere else in the frame. This does not happen with any other lens I have. Anyone who's seen this behavior before? This lens would be the perfect versatile lens for me, but if the performance of this lens is the normal, I will stay away from it. This is my first post, and did not find any rules prohibiting imgur links, hopefully they are allowed? I made a comparison animation of the Samyang at approximately 105mm at F4 and the Lumix 24-105 at F4. The sharper one is the Lumix. I would think it's reasonable to expect much better behavior from a good copy of a Samyang? https://imgur.com/a/eFFQWYp Edit: looks like the gif doesn't work great, so here's a side-by-side comparison as an attachment. Lumix on the left. Both shot at F4 and 1/1000th of a second. Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Edited October 14, 2024 by SimonV Quote Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/395503-samyang-35-150mm-af-2-28/?do=findComment&comment=5656521'>More sharing options...
goodbokeh Posted October 14, 2024 Share #37 Posted October 14, 2024 SimonV that is not my experience with the 35-150 at all on my 47MP SL2. So I suspect the used lens you tested was previously dropped or something else was not right with it. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SimonV Posted October 14, 2024 Share #38 Posted October 14, 2024 Ok, that's quite a shame. Would've been at a great price. Will have to look out for other ones if they appear. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NicoX Posted October 16, 2024 Share #39 Posted October 16, 2024 Hey guys. I'm contemplating buying this lens as it perfectly fits my needs, but the feedback I'm reading so far on this forum is rather frightening. Has anyone had a positive experience with it in combination with the SL3? All the reviews online seem to be with a Lumix camera, and they're certainly not as dire as what i just read. I thought manufacturers in the L mount alliance shared AF protocols? Could it be there are very bad copies of there? My main lens is the Sigma 50mm f1.2 and I can barely trust it with moving subjects too, at least in burst mode (forget about having two shots in a row in focus), but i always assumed that was the camera (which i love nonetheless) and not the lens. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
goodbokeh Posted October 16, 2024 Share #40 Posted October 16, 2024 NicoX I would advise buying from a camera store like B&H that gives a 30 day return policy and try the lens on for size. Return it if it doesn't work out. Be advised there has been one firmware update since the 35-150 in L-mount has been introduced. So after you have it mounted on your SL3 check to see if the lens has firmware 2.1. The firmware can be updated if necessary through the SD-CF card method. You always have to careful about cheap and biased talk on YouTube, forums, etc. So here's a photo I took on an recent evening stroll taken with my SL2 & 35-150: Taken at 79mm, f/2.8, 1/160, ISO 1600, Adobe Camera Raw. The focus was on the tree leaves below the Moon, the AF snapped right on even though it was dark. I'm happy with my lens, it's worthy of being mounted on the SL2. Whether it's worthy of your SL3 only you can determine. Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/395503-samyang-35-150mm-af-2-28/?do=findComment&comment=5658323'>More sharing options...
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