Strange issue with image storage

[Tom Gee]

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Hi all,

I had a strange problem yesterday. In my M11, I have a 256GB card, which I routinely reformat. I haven’t in the last month as I’m traveling.

As usual, I shot a series of photos. When I returned home, I found that the latter bunch of photos were on the card, but not the earlier one. After some searching, I found they were on the camera’s internal memory.

The internal memory files + the files on the card are a full record of yesterday’s shooting.

Again, the strange thing is that earlier images are on the camera’s internal memory, and later pictures are on the card.

I would have thought that if the card was becoming problematic, then earlier images would be on it, and later images would be on the internal storage.

My storage options are set to DNG+JPG first on SD which makes it even stranger: Why were the first images on the internal memory and only the latter on the card?

Any ideas?

Edited April 8, 2024 by Tom Gee
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[Knorp]

My wild guess: user-error

[kiwidad]

4 hours ago, Tom Gee said:

Hi all,

I had a strange problem yesterday. In my M11, I have a 256GB card, which I routinely reformat. I haven’t in the last month as I’m traveling.

As usual, I shot a series of photos. When I returned home, I found that the latter bunch of photos were on the card, but not the earlier one. After some searching, I found they were on the camera’s internal memory.

The internal memory files + the files on the card are a full record of yesterday’s shooting.

Again, the strange thing is that earlier images are on the camera’s internal memory, and later pictures are on the card.

I would have thought that if the card was becoming problematic, then earlier images would be on it, and later images would be on the internal storage.

My storage options are set to DNG+JPG first on SD which makes it even stranger: Why were the first images on the internal memory and only the latter on the card?

Any ideas?

Sounds like a profile change 

[Tom Gee]

Hi all,

It's easy to ascribe such a phenomenon to user error, but there was no error: nothing changed. As for a profile change, also not.

I was speaking to someone who in the Leica shop here in the Netherlands: it couldn't be a faulty card, since the intial picutures were on the internal memory and only the last set was on the card. If the card was faulty, it would have been the other way around.

 

[Derbyshire Man]

Sounds like it tried to write to the card and the card wasn't available. I'd imagine there's a fail safe that if you set write to card and there isn't one it writes internally. Maybe the card is on the blink and about to go or less likely the card reader. Also possibly sunspots!

[adan]

This may be a subset of the freezing problem. Did you remove the battery at any point? See thread-page 104 and following.

Apparently the M11 firmware can get confused by the complexities of:

- dual storage places

- the requirement to remove the battery to physically access the SD card, as well as replacing the battery

- reading one set of images to a computer and then putting the card back to record additional images

- maybe other operations

I kinda get the feeling that the M11 firmware (during some functions) assumes that users will always use the new built-in USB-C port for charging or data transfer, and the battery and card will never leave the camera. Or at least the many camera functions were never fully tested except when that is the case.

But I don't own the M11, so that is for the users and Leica to figure out. I do hope it all gets resolved for you.