albertwang Posted August 23, 2006 Share #1 Posted August 23, 2006 Advertisement (gone after registration) Just wanted to give heads up that I just ordered the Leica to 4/3 adapter from Stephen Gandy. I will be receiving it hopefully this week and will have images to post from my E300 by next week. Very excited. By the way, no worries on the so called mirror problem that the Cannons have been getting. The Oly-Leica combo should be the closest one can get without having to burn a pocket to get a DMR. K, I will inform of results. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Advertisement Posted August 23, 2006 Posted August 23, 2006 Hi albertwang, Take a look here Just ordered the Leica to 4/3 adapter from Gandy.. I'm sure you'll find what you were looking for!
Bob Ross Posted August 23, 2006 Share #2 Posted August 23, 2006 Have fun. I have used one with my E-1 and it is nice to have the option for a different look from out of system lenses. Bob Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
albertwang Posted August 24, 2006 Author Share #3 Posted August 24, 2006 Hi there Bob, Does the focus confirmation work with the E-1 and Leica lenses? Thanks. Alfie Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Ross Posted August 24, 2006 Share #4 Posted August 24, 2006 Hi there Bob, Does the focus confirmation work with the E-1 and Leica lenses? Thanks. Alfie Hi Alfie, No, all you get is the focusing screen to work with. The E-1's finder is brighter than the E-300, but you should be able to focus well enough. I tend to use the manual OM & R lenses near wide open and have found them quite useful. The wider the lens, the harder to focus on the modern ground glass screens. Bob Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nemeng Posted August 24, 2006 Share #5 Posted August 24, 2006 First off, see the v.detailed topic I have about using Leica lenses on Olympus E DSLRs: Leica FAQ - Four-Thirds Digital Leica(s) Secondly, had you done so earlier then you would have seen you can get a better quality lens-mount adapter from "Roxsen" for a cheaper price :?) I've been using this combo for a while now. Works well but be warned... the reverse-telescope Olympus viewfinder will drive you nuts. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
albertwang Posted August 24, 2006 Author Share #6 Posted August 24, 2006 That's ironic! I was supposed to be the guy who was to write that section Oh well... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Ross Posted August 24, 2006 Share #7 Posted August 24, 2006 Advertisement (gone after registration) Andrew, A minor correction to your "notes": near the bottom of the list, you show the ZD14-54 as ZD15-54. FWIW, my favorite manual lenses are the short teles, like the 90/2-R and the 100/2.8-OM and the 2X-R TC is surprisingly good. Bob Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
marknorton Posted August 24, 2006 Share #8 Posted August 24, 2006 Am I right in saying this allows you to mount an M lens on a 4/3 sensor camera with a crop factor of 2? That will have the Full Frame boys falling on their swords... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nemeng Posted August 24, 2006 Share #9 Posted August 24, 2006 Am I right in saying this allows you to mount an M lens on a 4/3 sensor camera with a crop factor of 2? That will have the Full Frame boys falling on their swords... No, only "R" (or Nikon or Contax etc.) SLR lenses can play. The lens-to-film distance for M Rangefinder lenses is too short to allow infinity focus. Even if it did work, there would still be the 1.94x cropping factor of all 4:3 DSLRs. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nemeng Posted August 24, 2006 Share #10 Posted August 24, 2006 Andrew,A minor correction to your "notes": near the bottom of the list, you show the ZD14-54 as ZD15-54. FWIW, my favorite manual lenses are the short teles, like the 90/2-R and the 100/2.8-OM and the 2X-R TC is surprisingly good. Thanks for spotting the typo. Have fixed it. I use three lenses: the 16mm R Fisheye-Elmart, the 50mm Summicron-R and a Nikkor 24mm f2.8 AI. The kit Oly ZD 14-45mm zoom is at the bottom of a trunk somewhere, waiting to achieve its true destiny as land-fill :?) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
albertwang Posted August 25, 2006 Author Share #11 Posted August 25, 2006 True, crop factor is 2X but unlike the crappy Cannons, you don't have to worry about shaving off mirrors or modifying expensive lenses... it's burn that 5d baby. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gylee Posted August 25, 2006 Share #12 Posted August 25, 2006 True, crop factor is 2X but unlike the crappy Cannons, you don't have to worry about shaving off mirrors or modifying expensive lenses... it's burn that 5d baby. Albert I don't normally take issue with your Canon bashing (you are entitled to your opinion), but on this occasion, describing Canon as crappy or having a mirror problem on the basis that you might need to shave the mirror to fit another maker's lens is a little over the top. If you had to shave the mirror to fit a Canon lens, you might have a point. I tend to think that within reason composition and exposure have a bigger impact on photographic quality than the camera or the lens, but I also think that your criticism of Canon is more than a little overblown. The reality is that a very large number of very fine images are taken using Canon equipment by people for whom cost was not an issue in the selection of their equipment - they chose Canon because they believed that it was the best tool for the job. This includes the absolute lion's share of the sports photography market, a very large portion of the photo-journalism market and a not inconsiderable portion of the fine art photography market. Can I just clarify - are all these people idiots? Canon is also the only manufacturer currently producing a full frame digital camera, which for those of us who enjoy wide-angle photography, is not an inconsiderable advantage. Finally, as regards high ISO performance, there is simply nothing to touch Canon's DSLRs. I agree that the absolute quality of the images produced by a DMR using Leica glass is higher than that produced by Canon equipment using Canon glass. However, I also think that based on what I have seen on this forum, the results produced with Canon equipment and Leica glass are also outstanding and in absolute terms, I don't think the incremental increase in quality from using the DMR justifies the very significant price increase over the 5D. I appreciate that is my opinion, but I simply don't accept that the Canon 5D is "crappy". The fact that my opinion, at least in respect of image quality, is shared by virtually every review of 5D is, I suppose, beside the point. I look forward to seeing your E300 posts. Best regards G. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
stunsworth Posted August 25, 2006 Share #13 Posted August 25, 2006 True, crop factor is 2X but unlike the crappy Cannons, you don't have to worry about shaving off mirrors or modifying expensive lenses... it's burn that 5d baby. Alfie, let's thing about this logically. With my 'crappy' Canon I use - without any modification to camera or lens - a 28mm Leica lens, because of the 100% sensor this equates to the angle of view of a 28mm lens. Using your Olympus with it's 2x crop factor you'd need to use a 14mm lens - something I don't think Leica make! So the Canon is a better camera than the Olympus if you wish to use wide angle Leica lenses as I'm sure you'll agree. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest stnami Posted August 25, 2006 Share #14 Posted August 25, 2006 All I want for xmas is a fully auto everthing, full frame wide angle point and shoot so I don't have to think about cameras ever again in my life, plus I don't care if it is a 'crappy' canon..... ....then if I just get my D2 back I won't care Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gylee Posted August 25, 2006 Share #15 Posted August 25, 2006 Alfie, let's thing about this logically. With my 'crappy' Canon I use - without any modification to camera or lens - a 28mm Leica lens, because of the 100% sensor this equates to the angle of view of a 28mm lens. Using your Olympus with it's 2x crop factor you'd need to use a 14mm lens - something I don't think Leica make! So the Canon is a better camera than the Olympus if you wish to use wide angle Leica lenses as I'm sure you'll agree. Steve It was your work I had in mind when I said that the Canon/Leica combo produces outstanding results. Given the crappy equipment you are working with, this must mean that all the skill lies with the photographer. G. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
stunsworth Posted August 25, 2006 Share #16 Posted August 25, 2006 It was your work I had in mind when I said that the Canon/Leica combo produces outstanding results. Given the crappy equipment you are working with, this must mean that all the skill lies with the photographer Guy, you have to remember I only post crappy plastic looking shots taken with my crappy camera :-) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest stnami Posted August 25, 2006 Share #17 Posted August 25, 2006 Canon EOS 400D / Digital Rebel XTi specs look good so does the 50 lens ,sounds like a damn good piece of plastic and high iso will blast my oly out of the water Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nemeng Posted August 25, 2006 Share #18 Posted August 25, 2006 Canon EOS 400D / Digital Rebel XTi specs look good so does the 50 lens ,sounds like a damn good piece of plastic and high iso will blast my oly out of the water We could play this game all day:. "Your camera brand ain't no good. Look instead at this new improved model my beloved brand is just about to release nya-nya-nya!..." I needed an inexpensive but good quality DSLR for a commercial car-shoot in May/June. The Olympus E500 was available. The EOS 400D was... where? Also, FWIW, I happen like the kind of pictures Oly 4:3's produce. IMO they don't have the Canikon "everything's been spray-coated with rubber" look. That said, the new Canon specs are pretty good. It also appears they've directly cloned the Oly E500, even down to having a ultra-sonic chip vibrator to keep the dust down. Now I wonder where they got that idea from?... :?) FWIW here's a link to an info page on the yet-to-be-released XTi (400D): Canon EOS XTi | Digital Camera Review Because it has 1.6x cropping, and therefore a shorter mirror-box, you should be able to get away with using most Leica R wides without mirror clearance issues. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Ross Posted August 25, 2006 Share #19 Posted August 25, 2006 We could play this game all day:. "Your camera brand ain't no good. Look instead at this new improved model my beloved brand is just about to release nya-nya-nya!..." Some of this reminds me of the discussions about which trannie film was the best and for what subjects..Kodachrome, Ektachrome, Agfachrome,Fuji, Konica and even 3M Three years ago when I was out to get my first DSLR, I really looked at the samples (printed) with my darkroom eye and found that the Sony sensor tended to look video, Canon was porcelain, Fuji a little strange and Kodak (E-1) looked familiar. Today we have more options and some of what I saw has changed, mostly for the better. RAW developer software and printers have also come a long way to make the situation more interesting. We have even begun to discover that we need to check image quality in the print instead of at 100% on the monitor:eek: In the olden days when we wanted to check a new or different film, we shot a roll. Today the equivalent is to download a sample or take an image at the store and make a print. Bob Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
stunsworth Posted August 25, 2006 Share #20 Posted August 25, 2006 Bob, I agree about using prints. Not only is there a lot of meaningless 'pixel peeping' going on, but people are also drawing generalisations based on 200k or smaller internet Jpegs. Seems bonkers to me. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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