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Overexposure issue with LEICA M11 monochrom

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Hello,

I bought a Leica M11 Monochrom 4 months ago and, since, I occasionally notice overexposures (2 or 3 EV), about 1 one time on 30, et entirely randomly.

I specify that I always use de A mod and the firmware is up to date (2.0.2)

The overexposures  often occur at the beginning of a serie of camera works, after having looked the last view on the screen and when I trigger quickly 

(street photos for example).

Your advices will be very precious for me.

Thanks

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Ken Abrahams

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Hello Poncet

I am having the same issue with one of my SL's. I have been testing the camera and lenses and then again on the other camera. I am unfamiliar with the M11 workings but if I have set my fn/toggle button to lock exposure and shoot continuously the "exposure hold" on the SL2s releases once the multiple frames continues past the first frame. It only occurs with the SL2S and so far, and the Apo 35 SL Summicron lens. 

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Poncet & Ken,   I received an email from Steffan Rau (SL program manager), they are aware of the issues for both the M11(s) and SL2 & S with the firmware.  I was told they are working on resolving the issues.  My SL2-S does the same thing, but didn't before the latest firmware update.  Look forward to the fixes....Happy New Year!... r/ Mark

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2 minutes ago, LeicaR10 said:

Poncet & Ken,   I received an email from Steffan Rau (SL program manager), they are aware of the issues for both the M11(s) and SL2 & S with the firmware.  I was told they are working on resolving the issues.  My SL2-S does the same thing, but didn't before the latest firmware update.  Look forward to the fixes....Happy New Year!... r/ Mark

Thanks LeicaR10

I haven't updated my firmware yet so my issue might be something else? The SL2 locked my exposures fine but not the SL2S Reporter model.

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Ken  

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Thank Ken.

It’s perhaps difficult to match because it’s not the same camera. I don’t know if it’s a bug or an real issue of the camera, or a bad use by me.

It’s very curious because these overexposures are randomly. Actually, I must to enable to take picture quickly 

but to wait that camera is ready to work.

It’s very the shame for thé street photo.

I am very desappointed and I don’t want to send thé camera to Leica where the repair Times are very long, 3 months at least !

 

 

 

 

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Ken,  You might want to read the last two Leica SL2 firmware release notes.  Leica changed a few functions and "fixed" a few.  The one function that sent me reeling was moving the joystick magnification function to the thumbwheel.  The joystick now has a AE lock function assigned.  r/ Mark

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Poncet,  Welcome to the forum.  The M11 cameras have a few bugs in the firmware such as file corruption on start up, missing images, upside down files.  This is new since the latest firmware .02 and Leica is working it.  I wouldn't send it to Leica and wait for the firmware fix.  You might simply leave the camera on with a two minute shut off or longer.  Somthing to consider.  r/ Mark

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The overexposure issue exists since the first days of the M11. It does occur mostly at the beginning of a session  but not only. Leica knows about the problem for a long time. With my M11 it seemed to be better since firmware 1.6.1 but it still exists. 

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16 minutes ago, elmars said:

The overexposure issue exists since the first days of the M11. It does occur mostly at the beginning of a session  but not only. Leica knows about the problem for a long time. With my M11 it seemed to be better since firmware 1.6.1 but it still exists. 

Thanks Elmars and Mark, I wasn't aware of such an issue with the M11 but I have read about some other ones. My SL2s seems to have the same condition as M11 however, I am trying to replicate the error in real time and then rule out my APO 35 SL Summicron lens as the problem and or the contacts between camera and lens possibility. 

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Ken 

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I think the random overexposure of a single frame in an otherwise perfectly exposed series of pictures, when shot on auto, is pretty much a feature rather than a bug. My M11 does exactly the same thing. It would be great if Leica could fix this, because it's quite annoying.

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Your post reassure me a little because, my Leica M11 mono is not the only one concerned  by this problem but, as you, I am very annoyed and I hope that Leica will shortly fix the issue with a new firmware but it’s not sure. I am going to write to Leica -I have a touch to Leica Wetzlar .Perhaps, he will be able to do something or at least share my lettre.

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I had a touch of the Leica technical support. He told le that the overexposure problem affects only some caméras and he suggests me to do a reset. If nothing changes, so I will have to send back it to Leica firm of Wetzlar for a repair !

It’s very annoying to have paid more 9000 euros for a Camera which doesn’t works normally!!

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vor 11 Stunden schrieb Poncet:

I had a touch of the Leica technical support. He told le that the overexposure problem affects only some caméras and he suggests me to do a reset. If nothing changes, so I will have to send back it to Leica firm of Wetzlar for a repair !

It’s very annoying to have paid more 9000 euros for a Camera which doesn’t works normally!!

I am not shure if Your technician is right. I got different information.

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I have been told that they are looking for a solution on the software side. It got better at some point - at least for me. I think that was with firmware 1.6.1, since then I've only had one single overexposure, before that every now and then. I would wait at least until the next update before sending in the camera.

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The technician suggested me to reset again (I had reseted after the update firmware 1.6 but not since the last update firmware 2.0)

so I am going to try again. If nothing changes, I will really hesitate to send back to factory, or not.

The technician gave me no information about a new firmware shortly.

As you, the overexposures are not frequent, only from time to time.

That’s why a back to factory is not the solution necessarily.

Moreover to use a so expensive Camera

which doesn’t works perfectly is very annoying.

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