Add SL2-s to M10-r?

[lldd]

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Current M10-r owner.  Considering adding an SL2-2 to the mix for use with M lenses.  For anyone who has both, do you find you use both?  I don't want to add another camera to the seldom used shelf.  If you use one over the other, any insights into when/why?  How is color compatibility between the two?

Edited December 27, 2023 by lldd

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[Almizilero]

I understand that you don't want to get into the SL-System, just the body to use with M lenses? What are you looking for in the SL2-S? Why not the SL2, which has the same resolution as your 10-R? Why not another M body?

I use the M10 and SL2-S, but for very different usecases. M for everyday carry and travel, SL2-S for portraits and stage photography, ususally with L-Mount AF lenses. To me, they are very different cameras. I rarely use the SL2-S with my M lenses (but I don't have that many). If I do, it works well, but I feel that the rangefinder of the M is still quicker to use than the (very good) viewfinder of the SL for manual focus. The SL is big, even with the small M lenses. I pick it up for dedicated projects. I don't see myself carrying it around as an everyday camera. That's what the M is for. So yeah, a little more information in what you seek in the SL2-S might help.

[Pierre68]

I have two M10Rs and 1 SL2-S. Thought I would use the two M10Rs with 2 different focal length. But since I mounted some of my M lenses on the SL2-S it has become my second go to "M" body. I have discovered that it was possible to frame accurately with wide angle lenses and the SL, I have discovered that I could nail focus with my f/1.2 and f/0.95 noctiluxes on the SL2-2. So now when I go out to take picture, it is with  M10R + 35 f/2 or 50mm f/1.4 and SL2-S with 21, 24 or 28mm or 50 f/1.2 or f/0.95 or 75, 90 or 135....

Makes totally sens to have both

I am now thinking to sell my second M10R to get the SL2 to match the resolution of the M10R...

[Jeff S]

I keep M lenses on my M10-R (and M10M), using RF only. The SL 2 serves different, complementary needs, using only SL lenses, for circumstances when things like weather sealing, EVF viewing and focus aids, stabilization, zooms, etc are preferred.  Different tools for different requirements.

Jeff

[wdshuck]

On 12/27/2023 at 1:37 PM, Almizilero said:

I understand that you don't want to get into the SL-System, just the body to use with M lenses? What are you looking for in the SL2-S? Why not the SL2, which has the same resolution as your 10-R? Why not another M body?

I use the M10 and SL2-S, but for very different usecases. M for everyday carry and travel, SL2-S for portraits and stage photography, ususally with L-Mount AF lenses. To me, they are very different cameras. I rarely use the SL2-S with my M lenses (but I don't have that many). If I do, it works well, but I feel that the rangefinder of the M is still quicker to use than the (very good) viewfinder of the SL for manual focus. The SL is big, even with the small M lenses. I pick it up for dedicated projects. I don't see myself carrying it around as an everyday camera. That's what the M is for. So yeah, a little more information in what you seek in the SL2-S might help.

This is how I use my M10 and SL2-S as well. The M is generally faster to focus, so it is easier for everyday carry and pictures. The SL2-S is fun for very fast lens (50mm F1), but I generally use it only when I need AF. If I’m only bringing one camera, it is generally the M.

[jwr50]

I pair my M10R with the Q3 for those times when a compact camera with autofocus is the right choice (mainly when I travel).

[WvE]

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Recently paired my M10 with SL2-s, it's wholly different but very enjoyable. While M lenses work fine, I would get one of two AF lenses (Leica or others) as it's nice to have AF once and a while. 

[midnhtsun]

I just added an SL2-s to my m10-R, and I think this has more to do with what you want to do. I wanted something that would allow me to do some video and open up using telephoto lenses for the occasional wildlife shots and autofocus. I still use my M lenses on the SL, and because both cameras have a different feel when using them, I swap between them so I feel like they are both getting enough use to own each. 

Have you used an SL before? If not, I would recommend getting a used one from KEH or MPB or somewhere with a good return window. By the time you get to the end of the return window, you'll probably have a better idea if it is something you will continue to use enough to justify having it. 

[lldd]

Thanks for all of the comments and suggestions.  I owned the original SL, so am familiar with the overall feel and operation of the camera.

After trying the SL2-s a couple of times at a camera store, I've decided to just stick with the M10-r.  Perhaps the SL3 will tempt, but I have become so used to the M viewfinder that even the SL2-s EVF ended up being a showstopper.

[st4u]

Hello Ildd,

my first digital M was th M10-D as a continous of the M6.

after two years I wanted also a SL, but which? I vahe studied one year and wnt for  a SL 601, although both others were already on market.

why? Same colors, same pixels, I love the Menue of the SL and the lack of it with the M10-D. The one and only SL lens I bought a few months ago, the great underestimated Sigma 45mm for only one reason: if I need to give people my camera to be also on pictures during festivals. 
I use my 13 M and M39 Mandler and few modern lenses on both bodies. I love both Systems, but use more often the M10-D.

Both systems are required and suggested.

If I had been you I only would have had one idea:

almost same pixels: SL-2,

same menue buttons: SL2

value and best prices now SL-2,

future value altough digital: SL2 in silver. There is  no reason for waiting for the SL3 with the 60 MP, SL2-S for what? Dynamik range with the M10-R is better. You don‘t need the High ISO.

Once I read, I think it was Slack or another well known nerd: the best colours like M have 1. SL2, 2. SL 601, 3. SL-2S

 

good luck and light

 

regards Chris

[thatkatmat]

I know most Leica users turn their nose up at the Panasonic products (at least I used to). But, after owning all 3 SL bodies multiple times, I tried the s5ii. I got it for $1200 used. Beautiful Leica colors, WAY better AF (similar to Sony's), M lenses work brilliantly with just about any L to M adapter. 

Anyways, it's a cheap way to have a real EVF that's enjoyable to use with your m lenses that was co-designed by Leica.

Edited January 25, 2024 by thatkatmat

[tomasis7]

On 1/24/2024 at 6:55 PM, st4u said:

Hello Ildd,

my first digital M was th M10-D as a continous of the M6.

after two years I wanted also a SL, but which? I vahe studied one year and wnt for  a SL 601, although both others were already on market.

why? Same colors, same pixels, I love the Menue of the SL and the lack of it with the M10-D. The one and only SL lens I bought a few months ago, the great underestimated Sigma 45mm for only one reason: if I need to give people my camera to be also on pictures during festivals. 
I use my 13 M and M39 Mandler and few modern lenses on both bodies. I love both Systems, but use more often the M10-D.

Both systems are required and suggested.

If I had been you I only would have had one idea:

almost same pixels: SL-2,

same menue buttons: SL2

value and best prices now SL-2,

future value altough digital: SL2 in silver. There is  no reason for waiting for the SL3 with the 60 MP, SL2-S for what? Dynamik range with the M10-R is better. You don‘t need the High ISO.

Once I read, I think it was Slack or another well known nerd: the best colours like M have 1. SL2, 2. SL 601, 3. SL-2S

 

good luck and light

 

regards Chris

very interesting. I have sl601 and want m10D but would never afford it. I think M10R and Sl2-S are the perfect combo for someone. Vastly different cameras for different purposes. 

I see my SL as a complement to my M film body. I take videos for fun. Pretty good sensor compared to my old Rd1