DQ03 Posted July 25, 2023 Share #1 Posted July 25, 2023 Advertisement (gone after registration) I just received my Leica Q3 yesterday and spent sometime playing with it and the Leica FOTOS app this morning. I connected an iPhone XR to the camera using a Leica cable (provided). The iPhone has the latest IOS and FOTOS versions and the camera has the latest firmware version (1.1). The connection is pretty easy and fast, both wired and wireless and the download is quick too. In my experiment, the camera is mounted on a table tripod and the focus is set on Touch AF. The immediate issue I saw was obvious (see attached photo): the AF Field (box) is not consistent between the iPhone and the camera. On the camera, I set the focus on a vase but on the phone, the AF Field is off, and vice versa. That leads to a question of which AF Field is to trust, phone or camera? In addition, after the experiment, I turned off the camera and when I turned it back on, the AF Mode mysteriously switched from Field to Eye/Face/Body Detection. I reported this inconsistency to Leica through the FOTOS app and hope they will do some calibration. Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/380175-af-field-inconsistency-between-fotos-app-and-q3/?do=findComment&comment=4821767'>More sharing options...
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menbow Posted July 27, 2023 Share #2 Posted July 27, 2023 Mine has some deviations too, but not much Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DQ03 Posted July 27, 2023 Author Share #3 Posted July 27, 2023 9 hours ago, menbow said: Mine has some deviations too, but not much Have you reported the glitch to Leica? I did to Leica FOTOS App Support and Leica USA and their responses are as follows. Quote Dear Leica Customer, Thank you for your e-mail. I have forwarded your e-mail and the logfiles to our app developers for investigation. (ticket number 5327 ) As soon as we have more information, we will contact you. Quote Greetings, Thank you so much for bringing this to our attention. We do have a new firmware update being released within the next week but I will certainly send this to our software team in Wetzlar as this is the first I’ve heard of this issue. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
menbow Posted July 28, 2023 Share #4 Posted July 28, 2023 11 hours ago, DQ03 said: 您向徠卡報告了該故障嗎？ 我聯繫了Leica FOTOS 應用程序支持和 Leica USA，他們的回復如下。 I will report the problem again Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DQ03 Posted September 30, 2023 Author Share #5 Posted September 30, 2023 It is disappointing that the Q3 Firmware 1.3 has not addressed the mis-alignment between the AF box in the FOTOS app and on the Q3. In the setup below, I use FOTOS app to focus on the soldier’s face but on the Q3 LCD, the AF box is off to the right. Because the real and accurate focus is through the Q3 lens, this would definitely result in an out-of-focus photo if I take it with the FOTOS app, which has a mis-aligned AF box. I encourage all Q3 owners to check the alignment and report to Leica if there is an issue. I’ve previously reported this problem to the company, and again this afternoon after updating the FW; hope they will have a fix soon. Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/380175-af-field-inconsistency-between-fotos-app-and-q3/?do=findComment&comment=4867301'>More sharing options...
WeiterWinkel Posted October 4, 2023 Share #6 Posted October 4, 2023 Could it be that the autofocus overrides the camera's when you use the Foto app? In a real world scenario you wouldn't realize the difference in the autofocus areas because your camera's screen would be dimmed. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jps1 Posted October 4, 2023 Share #7 Posted October 4, 2023 Advertisement (gone after registration) Hello, May be off topic in this post but have you noticed that only Leica looks are used and not film modes. Is that normal? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jps1 Posted October 4, 2023 Share #8 Posted October 4, 2023 (edited) On 9/30/2023 at 7:21 AM, DQ03 said: Il est décevant que le Q3 Firmware 1.3 n'ait pas corrigé le mauvais alignement entre la boîte AF dans l'application FOTOS et sur le Q3. Dans la configuration ci-dessous, j'utilise l'application FOTOS pour me concentrer sur le visage du soldat, mais sur l'écran LCD Q3, la boîte AF est éteinte à droite. Parce que la mise au point réelle et précise se fait à travers l'objectif Q3, cela se traduirait certainement par une photo floue si je la prends avec l'application FOTOS, qui a une boîte AF mal alignée. J'encourage tous les propriétaires du troisième trimestre à vérifier l'alignement et à faire rapport à Leica en cas de problème. J'ai déjà signalé ce problème à l'entreprise, et à nouveau cet après-midi après la mise à jour du FW ; j'espère qu'ils auront bientôt une solution. Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! For my part, this works perfectly with my Q3. Edited October 4, 2023 by jps1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DQ03 Posted October 5, 2023 Author Share #9 Posted October 5, 2023 (edited) 19 hours ago, WeiterWinkel said: Could it be that the autofocus overrides the camera's when you use the Foto app? In a real world scenario you wouldn't realize the difference in the autofocus areas because your camera's screen would be dimmed. Because of the focus area misalignment/discrepancy, I’ve asked Leica which device (i.e., FOTOS app on IPhone and Q3) provides accurate focus and can be relied on and their answer is Q3. Leica FOTOS app doesn’t override the camera, it is only a digital representation of the camera. The question is whether it’s an accurate or inaccurate one. I have not tried the FOTOS app out in the field but based on my table top experiment, the Q3 was not dimmed when I used the app. See my previous photo below. Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Edited October 5, 2023 by DQ03 1 Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/380175-af-field-inconsistency-between-fotos-app-and-q3/?do=findComment&comment=4869983'>More sharing options...
DQ03 Posted October 5, 2023 Author Share #10 Posted October 5, 2023 13 hours ago, jps1 said: For my part, this works perfectly with my Q3. I’d appreciate if you could elaborate on your experience. Did you use your Q3 with the FOTOS app and the app focus area aligned perfectly with the focus area on the Q3 screen? If that’s really the case, Leica has another issue of inconsistency among the first batch of Q3. Don’t get me wrong, my Q3 works perfectly too, if I use it alone. But my concern is when I have to rely on the (inaccurate) FOTOS app to control my out-of-reach Q3 (e.g., mounted on top of a tall monopod) to take photos. The app focuses on my subject but in reality, the Q3 is focusing on something else lower and to the right of my subject. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jps1 Posted October 5, 2023 Share #11 Posted October 5, 2023 (edited) 6 hours ago, DQ03 said: Je vous serais reconnaissant si vous pouviez développer votre expérience. Avez-vous utilisé votre Q3 avec l'application FOTOS et la zone de mise au point de l'application parfaitement alignée avec la zone de mise au point sur l'écran du Q3 ? Si c'est vraiment le cas, Leica a un autre problème d'incohérence entre le premier lot du troisième trimestre. Ne vous méprenez pas, mon Q3 fonctionne parfaitement aussi, si je l'utilise seul. Mais ma préoccupation est quand je dois compter sur l'application FOTOS (inexacte) pour contrôler mon Q3 hors de portée (par exemple, monté sur un grand monopode) pour prendre des photos. L'application se concentre sur mon sujet, mais en réalité, le Q3 se concentre sur quelque chose d'autre de plus bas et à droite de mon sujet. Sorry, but there is indeed a delay. The center on Q3 corresponds to the lower right corner on Leica fotos. In addition, when you are in spot mode on the Q3 no focus element appears in Leica fotos Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Edited October 5, 2023 by jps1 Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/380175-af-field-inconsistency-between-fotos-app-and-q3/?do=findComment&comment=4870048'>More sharing options...
jps1 Posted October 5, 2023 Share #12 Posted October 5, 2023 (edited) Difficult to take a photo with an iPhone while holding another iPhone with Leica fotos! Edited October 5, 2023 by jps1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DQ03 Posted October 6, 2023 Author Share #13 Posted October 6, 2023 17 hours ago, jps1 said: Sorry, but there is indeed a delay. The center on Q3 corresponds to the lower right corner on Leica fotos. In addition, when you are in spot mode on the Q3 no focus element appears in Leica fotos Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Thank you for sharing your photos. The first one confirms the same problem I have: focus area on the Leica Q3 shifts to the lower right of the Fotos app focus area. For the second photo, I tested only the ‘Field’ AF mode and have not tested any other modes. p.s. Je pouvais écrire en francais; malheureusement, tout était perdu depuis 40 ans. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jps1 Posted October 6, 2023 Share #14 Posted October 6, 2023 (edited) On 9/30/2023 at 7:21 AM, DQ03 said: Il est décevant que le Q3 Firmware 1.3 n'ait pas corrigé le mauvais alignement entre la boîte AF dans l'application FOTOS et sur le Q3. Dans la configuration ci-dessous, j'utilise l'application FOTOS pour me concentrer sur le visage du soldat, mais sur l'écran LCD Q3, la boîte AF est éteinte à droite. Parce que la mise au point réelle et précise se fait à travers l'objectif Q3, cela se traduirait certainement par une photo floue si je la prends avec l'application FOTOS, qui a une boîte AF mal alignée. J'encourage tous les propriétaires du troisième trimestre à vérifier l'alignement et à faire rapport à Leica en cas de problème. J'ai déjà signalé ce problème à l'entreprise, et à nouveau cet après-midi après la mise à jour du FW ; j'espère qu'ils auront bientôt une solution. Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! 7 hours ago, DQ03 said: Merci d'avoir partagé vos photos. Le premier confirme le même problème que j'ai : la zone de mise au point sur le Leica Q3 se déplace en bas à droite de la zone de mise au point de l'application Fotos. Pour la deuxième photo, je n'ai testé que le mode AF "Field" et je n'ai testé aucun autre mode. p.s. Je pouvais écrire en francais; malheureusement, tout était perdu depuis 40 ans. There are other problems with Leica Fotos, for example only Leica looks are used. I use my translator on safari because I have trouble with English. Edited October 6, 2023 by jps1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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